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Old 10-22-2005, 06:15 AM   #10861
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Very nice. Got any pics of the front end of the drivetrain?
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Old 10-22-2005, 09:55 AM   #10862
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Joey do you have any problems with flex? The front looks like it would flex bad left to right, unless you have like the 3mm chassie?
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I just made the old sub-decks fit the MSX to make the car stiffer, ill post the pics along with what spacers used to make them align.
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Old 10-22-2005, 10:33 AM   #10864
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Very nice. Got any pics of the front end of the drivetrain?
I'll get some more pix by tomorrow. I am at the track right now. The car works great! The other guys here that have the same car is thinking to change it.

Surikarn is even here with his Cyclone. He said that the front steering of the Cyclone is better then the 415 but the MSX rear is better then the Cyclone and by changing the front steering from the 415 to Cyclone style, I guess makes it better! Hahaha.
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Old 10-22-2005, 10:38 AM   #10865
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Joey do you have any problems with flex? The front looks like it would flex bad left to right, unless you have like the 3mm chassie?
The flex seems to be the same. I am using the original 415 plate. A friend of mine here is going to cut me a new top deck that has no cut-outs. Just trace the edges and countersink the holes.

There is no carpet racing here except for TAMIYA's race in the shopping malls so a little flex is good for outdoors.

Oh, I heard that Hara wants to move to Thailand. He was here looking at condos. Maybe I'll have to move to HB's, hahahaha! NOT! (Well, I already have one but......)
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:19 PM   #10866
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It is funny somone has done this with the drive train as me and my mate were talking about it the other week when compairing my cyclone and my MSX. I might have to give it a try if it proves wrth it. One thing i would do is move the batterys slightly further in if this is possible?
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:09 PM   #10867
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Try this one
http://www.thard.co.uk/rc/TRF415/setups/ashby(MSX).jpg

The only things I would probably change are to lower the front roll centre a little (say 3mm under the front link) and put yellow roll bars on all round (on the advice of david spashett). Car felt dialed in completely.

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Heya ED.

Well i managed to get 2 batteries in yesterday before it got cold and i started feeling sick again and had to come home.


The car is very different compared to what i remember about my 415MS.

I ran ur set up bar the suspension blocks as i only have a few atm.

I ran D and D on the front and A and D on the rear. I also ended up with 4mm under the front ball stud.


One thing i am looking for is more high speed steering, i currently run a Mazda 6 shell.


Any ideas??


Thanks heaps again ED hopefully i might get another run in this week!


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Old 10-22-2005, 05:33 PM   #10868
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hi guys.

i am getting my first tourer soon.

was wondering what brand of tires to get? are sorex any good?

also what rims are good and dont crack after 1 heat ?

also foam tires are generally not used in electric tourers yeah?


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Old 10-22-2005, 05:57 PM   #10869
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Deffiently try C-A at least on the front, that should help. If you can, get the narrower blocks too. I tend to find that the narrow blocks make the car more responsive, and also tends to yield more grip, if for a slight downturn in stability (which makes sense). On the rear, narrower blocks do help the car to rotate faster in the turns, so try that also.
Quick Q, what motor are you running?
High-speed steering, i'm guessing on-power, could try a number of things.

try dropping the rear link back to 1mm,
put the shocks out one on the tower

there the first things I'd try

Also what tyres? I've begun to find the CS's tend to make the car nose happy, and sorex's are quite neutral...

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Old 10-22-2005, 06:30 PM   #10870
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SO...

I have still yet to drive my MSX on a race'd track.

This weekend was the first round of the CRL, and my RDX was so stupid fast I couldnt try the car out. Just to pont out how stupid fast my RDX is, I TQed and WON the race in stock/foam.

ANYWAYS. Dave Johnson, a known WHEEL.. tried my MSX out for me. His fast lap with his Factory Xray was a 10.35 in 19t. My MSX, which was built with no particular setup copied, turned him a fast lap of 10.31!!!!! This on a car we just doped the tires on, programmed his radio and threw it on the track.

This car will work on carpet! it carries speed, it is smooth.. and is a delight to drive- to quote him. Three others at the track are now looking for MSX kits.

NOW... I was also able to scam some carbon fiber of Josh.. and will make a 3.0mm top deck for it.


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Old 10-22-2005, 06:41 PM   #10871
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Hey ED.

Currently running a Orion 8x2....


Yeah on power, high speed off this sweeper on to the back straight on this particular track.

Check this link for pics http://www.rrcsa.org.au/pics/TrackEx...004/Sun8thFeb/

I seem to suffer alot on this particular corner, losing alot of speed compared to the yokomo and AE cars.

Any help would be great!

Also, how do i use normal blocks for the front rear mount?? The one where the belt passes under it?????


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for the front rear block, you'll need to get hold of an A-Bridge block (like the d-Bridge, but at the A block width) http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebp...id=269&id=1778
If you use the X-series blocks, they can be flipped over, and with 3mm of spacers, be at the correct pin height.

For the steering prob, try putting the shocks out one hole, looking at that track. you could try raising the suspension blocks too (say 0.5mm under the blocks) to raise the rear rollcentre, but this will make the car rotate quicker... it'll be smoother with them as low as poss.
Also try reducing the front droop.

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Old 10-22-2005, 09:22 PM   #10873
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anybody got a good ozite/ foam setup for a standard 415 w/ ltwt arms?
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Old 10-22-2005, 11:59 PM   #10874
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Very nice. Got any pics of the front end of the drivetrain?
Here is the front diff.
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Old 10-23-2005, 08:24 AM   #10875
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anybody got a good ozite/ foam setup for a standard 415 w/ ltwt arms?
go back a few pages and u will find 1...
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