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Old 09-09-2005, 05:39 PM   #10021
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My MSX kit is only costing Ģ83.28 + Shipping which is around $150 US. Not bad at all IMHO.
Thatīs a price I would pay also. Where do you get yours?
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:46 PM   #10022
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Well, it's only here in the US that it cost that much. If you order from Japan, it only costs around $150. I don't think EMS shipping will be $100 for such a small item.
Where in Japan can you get this from? Do you have a website?
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:58 PM   #10023
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I think the cheapest place in Japan(and the world) to get Tamiya gear from is R/C Champ. They have a thread in rctech.net Click HERE

the price for the MSX is about $150 USD and about $200 AUD. They have a website but its in Japanese. you can e-mail to order at [email protected] .

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Old 09-09-2005, 07:49 PM   #10024
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Is it the same spool at Kenon Hobby and PrecisionRC?
If it is the same which is the best:
Speedtech, Tamiya or Shooters?
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:25 AM   #10025
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If you run the stock 415 any foam should just about work. If you use the 415MS or 415 w/ LW suspension you have to run the HPI Pro4 knuckles. That will give all the clearance you need.

I run my 415 w/ LW suspension this way and can fit Parma, TRC, Jaco, GQ, ect, ect...
Hi Nexus,

Got the Pro 4 knuckles and 5x10x4 bearings. Now the axle is not long enough to fit the wheel hex pin. Am I missing something? Thanks.

Also, you have to shim a bit between the Tamiya C-hub and the Pro 4 knuckle, right?

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Old 09-10-2005, 02:21 AM   #10026
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Hi Nexus,

Got the Pro 4 knuckles and 5x10x4 bearings. Now the axle is not long enough to fit the wheel hex pin. Am I missing something? Thanks.

Also, you have to shim a bit between the Tamiya C-hub and the Pro 4 knuckle, right?

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You will need the old suspension's axles which are longer, and a bunch of 5x8 shims (about 7/10 per axle) and use the shims netween the hex and the hub.
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Old 09-10-2005, 03:53 AM   #10027
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this is the infamous MSX conversion kit????? I't doesn't seem like you get alot for your money Also weren't they going to include a brand new chassis where is it?

By taking out the chassis,they have thus made the conversion kit a little cheaper.

Since most of use have the chassis already and its the same thing.Need not include to up the price of it.It already very expensive...
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:39 AM   #10028
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For the guys with the old 415 like me, itīs the question if you can use the 3mm chassis with the MSX conversion kit. Maybe it doesnīt make sense if itīs too stiff as the MSX seems stiffer than the current 415 and the 3mm chassis also is much stiffer than the 2.5mm.
Other question is if the MSX parts maybe doesnīt fit the old 3mm chassis for some mechanical problems. As the 3mm chassis does have different holes for the suspension blocks maybe they could interfere with the new bulkheads.
Just donīt hope so.
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For the guys with the old 415 like me, itīs the question if you can use the 3mm chassis with the MSX conversion kit. Maybe it doesnīt make sense if itīs too stiff as the MSX seems stiffer than the current 415 and the 3mm chassis also is much stiffer than the 2.5mm.
Other question is if the MSX parts maybe doesnīt fit the old 3mm chassis for some mechanical problems. As the 3mm chassis does have different holes for the suspension blocks maybe they could interfere with the new bulkheads.
Just donīt hope so.
I wouldn't worry at all, it states that the kit fits the std 415 with LW suspension, this means the 3mm chassis will fit.
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You will be able to run the old 3mm chassis and the old arms with the MSX kit.
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Old 09-10-2005, 08:07 AM   #10031
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For the guys with the old 415 like me, itīs the question if you can use the 3mm chassis with the MSX conversion kit. Maybe it doesnīt make sense if itīs too stiff as the MSX seems stiffer than the current 415 and the 3mm chassis also is much stiffer than the 2.5mm.
Other question is if the MSX parts maybe doesnīt fit the old 3mm chassis for some mechanical problems. As the 3mm chassis does have different holes for the suspension blocks maybe they could interfere with the new bulkheads.
Just donīt hope so.
It does fit the Original 415. It is stated that it fits the 415 with the Rev. LW Suspension system. That means the arm mount blocks in their original chassis locations. I ordered mine and will actually try it out with the regular suspension. I don't see it being a problem for any clearances. When Tamiya cancelled the Rev. LW Suspension kit part number then too bad I will not be interested in that and buynig all the parts separately for the first time. The only issue is lining up of the proper wheelbase if the bulkheads change that might be the only issue as there is less spacing for the original 415. I think they want you to buy the LW suspension as extra sales for this as I see it has to work with original 415.


The only way is if someone can compare the drill hole locations of a 3mm chassis vs the 2.5mm chassis MS kit for the bulkheads and their relation to the chassis front to back and the bulkheads to see if all the lines up for the diffs and pulleys. They use the same belts. But the MS bulkheads do have MS imprinted on the inside for a reason don't they? Hopefully someone has the luxury of comparing the parts and can post a report.
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the only difference between the 415 and the 415ms bulkheads is the thickness of the post where the screw goes in it is narrower. When you put the lightweight suspension on the 415 you have to trim the inside of the arm to a 45 degree angle so it doesn't rub on the bulkheads and that is what they fixed on the ms. I built a 415ms from spare parts using the original bulkheads.
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The only way is if someone can compare the drill hole locations of a 3mm chassis vs the 2.5mm chassis MS kit for the bulkheads and their relation to the chassis front to back and the bulkheads to see if all the lines up for the diffs and pulleys. They use the same belts. But the MS bulkheads do have MS imprinted on the inside for a reason don't they? Hopefully someone has the luxury of comparing the parts and can post a report.
I'll be able to do that with my kit when it arrives, as I've ordered an MS chassis plate at the same time.
However, when comparing the MS with the standard bulkheads, the only thing I noticed was that the rear bulkheads were more "curvy".... The only other thing I can think of is that they are 0.5mm taller, to take into account the reduced MS chassis thickness.... not sure if that is correct though, have never measured the bulkheads to test it.

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I took the 415 of the shelf for the first time in over a year today and was supprised how well it worked at SoCal. I see a lot of the set ups now how use the x series blocks. What does this do? Someone also told me that the orinal suspension works better on high bite tracks but could not tel me why. i am running the ltw suspension on the orinal car and anxiosly looking forward to converting to the MSX. i am sure this has all been covered but for the life of me i could not find it.
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running the X blocks on the rear allows the car to rotate faster. Most of the UK TRF drivers are doing this at the moment, using XD/X, with 1 deg rear hubs.
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