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Old 08-22-2005, 02:49 PM   #9811
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The original 415 is really a tank, only thing i've broken (cracked) is a caster block, drove with the cracked caster block a half day..
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:07 PM   #9812
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This car will be used for carpet but mainly asphalt as the weather here is warm most of the year

I see alot of people with the MS shock towers? why?

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Old 08-22-2005, 04:18 PM   #9813
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What is the difference between A and D blocks in milimeters?

Are XA XB XC and XD block wider than standard or narrower?
I've tried to measure the difference before, but gave up when I figured all i really needed to know was what the angle difference between the blocks were. I might try and measure them again at some point.

The X-series blocks are narrower than the std series, they basically continue off where the X block finishes, allowing correct toe to be run with 0deg rear hubs.
The full range goes (from widest to narrowest);

D, C, B, A, X, XA, XB, XC, XD

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This car will be used for carpet but mainly asphalt as the weather here is warm most of the year
I see alot of people with the MS shock towers? why?
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The MS towers are slightly different to the std towers. Firstly they are about 1mm lower, and there is the extra hole on the rear tower.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:31 AM   #9814
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The MSX conversion is finally up for pre order on speedtech at $270...

Stiff price...
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:08 AM   #9815
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Can someone just confirm for me something about the standard toe blocks.

I have built the car as per instructions but have replaced the wishbones with the lightweight ones instead - have I in turn changed my rear toe in by doing this?

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Old 08-23-2005, 02:38 AM   #9816
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The MSX conversion is finally up for pre order on speedtech at $270...

Stiff price...
i wonder how much would the entire kit be price
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:08 AM   #9817
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Hi Guys,

Finally received a price on the upcoming TRF415MSX conversion kit (set for october release). We set the price on the conservative side at the moment (on the higher side) just in case the manufacture change their price when the production arrive, but if all remains the same, the actual price might be a bit lower We are also working on trying to get this kit in around Japanese release date so there will be minimal delay for the US market.

Tamiya Limited Edition TRF415MSX conversion kit is available for pre-order!

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Old 08-23-2005, 09:22 AM   #9818
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Can someone just confirm for me something about the standard toe blocks.

I have built the car as per instructions but have replaced the wishbones with the lightweight ones instead - have I in turn changed my rear toe in by doing this?

Andrew
Simply put..Yes.
The LWT suspension uses 1deg rear hubs, whereas the Std suspension uses 2deg. So you'll have one degree less toe-in on the rear (ie from 2.5deg with C/D, down to 1.5deg)
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Simply put..Yes.
The LWT suspension uses 1deg rear hubs, whereas the Std suspension uses 2deg. So you'll have one degree less toe-in on the rear (ie from 2.5deg with C/D, down to 1.5deg)
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1.5 is a bit on the low side from my experience. What combination of blocks do I need to use in order to get my toe back to what it should be - or do you still use this amount of toe?

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Given I only run stock, I tend to stay around 2deg, ocasionally dropping back to 1.5 if the track is particularly fast.
To get 2deg, try B/D; for 2.5, try A/D.

Basically you'll find that each block produces a 0.5deg change. So it's fairly easy to figure out once you get your head round it

On my site, you can actually find an excel spreadsheet which details the block changes. Direct Link: http://www.thard.co.uk/rc/TRF415/setups/ToeBlocks.xls

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I run stock on a fairly tight twisty track, and have around 2.5deg of toe-in on my car.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:55 PM   #9822
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Rnning mod, foam or rubber, i generally stick to 2 degrees rear toe.
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i normaly run 2.5 as well, however my last race i needed more speed so i droped to 1deg, made a noticable difference in straightline speed, however car was very loose in, but faast.
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Thanks Ed,

Looking to try this theory out once I get it built. May take it down to Beddy on Friday for a Maiden voyage.

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:30 AM   #9825
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Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the flanged bearings on teh steering ackerman on the 415.

I have ordered some from precisionrc but would like to find some locally sooner if possible.

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