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Old 08-01-2005, 05:57 PM   #9586
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A spool is a fixed (locked) front drive. With a ball diff the wheels are able to spin at different speeds. A spool doesn't allow the front wheels to spin at different speeds, so under power, it will provide more front traction as one wheel can not spin more than the other. Another advantage you have with a spool is you will be able to brake harder and brake later as with a one-way you only have very little brakes.

A spool will provide less turn-in steering as the front wheels fight each other as they can not spin at different rates.

No, the 415 and 415 MS kit do not come with spools, they come with one-ways.

Rebound stroke (A.K.A- droop). By adjusting the rebound stroke, you adjust how far the rear of the car lifts under breaking or slowing and how much the front of the car lifts under power. By running less droop in the rear, it doesn't allow the rear of the car to lift as much which means not as much weight is transferred to the front of the car which means less steering. By reducing front rebound stroke the front of the car will not lift as much under power which means more steering and less rear traction as less weight is transferred to the rear of the car.

And obviously by adding more droop to the front or rear you get the opposite affect
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:12 AM   #9587
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everthing is kit set up apart from the following,

front
i have moved the shocks out on the bottom where they connect to the front arms

rear
i have moved the shocks to the third hole on the shock tower and have moved the bottom of the shocks in on the rear arms

i hope this helps
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:18 AM   #9588
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Rebound stroke (A.K.A- droop). By adjusting the rebound stroke, you adjust how far the rear of the car lifts under breaking or slowing and how much the front of the car lifts under power. By running less droop in the rear, it doesn't allow the rear of the car to lift as much which means not as much weight is transferred to the front of the car which means less steering. By reducing front rebound stroke the front of the car will not lift as much under power which means more steering and less rear traction as less weight is transferred to the rear of the car.

And obviously by adding more droop to the front or rear you get the opposite affect
the best and simplest info on droop! thanks Jack2
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:33 AM   #9589
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:35 AM   #9590
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everthing is kit set up apart from the following,

front
i have moved the shocks out on the bottom where they connect to the front arms

rear
i have moved the shocks to the third hole on the shock tower and have moved the bottom of the shocks in on the rear arms

i hope this helps
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The changes you made will cause the car to understeer, try running the kit setup down to the last shim.

If you need more steering, go 3 hole front pistons, softer oil, take out the foam insert in the shock, softer front springs, raise the front camber link, go to the forward position on the hub, move the bottom shock position in towards the chassis.

The 415 is an extremely adjustable car you wont have any problems getting it to steer hard.
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:38 AM   #9591
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so the set up i am running is crap????
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Old 08-02-2005, 02:07 AM   #9592
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WoW,,

very simple and so usefull !! thanks a alot .
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The changes you made will cause the car to understeer, try running the kit setup down to the last shim.

If you need more steering, go 3 hole front pistons, softer oil, take out the foam insert in the shock, softer front springs, raise the front camber link, go to the forward position on the hub, move the bottom shock position in towards the chassis.

The 415 is an extremely adjustable car you wont have any problems getting it to steer hard.
thanks mate i will give it a try
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:59 PM   #9594
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how well does the 415 ms handle on carpet with Foams?
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It handles awesome on carpet. i ran foams last winter and will do again this coming winter. i run with a spool and the car had so much steering, i cut the front foams down to 20mm to calm it down.
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Does anyone know where to find the light weight suspension kit? I just picked up a used 415, and I'm thinking of switching it over. Unfortunatly, I can't seem to find one anywhere.
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Precision RC has the one for TA-04/05, i think it can be used but you need universals and some more parts to use it, someone else has to tell which parts
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:33 AM   #9598
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I am seriously thinking about getting a TRF. I have been looking into this recently and it looks as if I have no easy means of getting hold of the latest kit;

It seems to me that the TRF is the only kit I can buy new at the moment that I can find. That would then mean I need to upgrade to the MS and then the MSX to have the latest version. This just seems totally stupid to me, not to mention expensive.

What are the minimum bits I need to add to a regular TRF to get to an MSX (besides the MSX conversion). Even if I could do it this way, I wouldn't have all of the bling that came with the MS, would I?

I find it hard to believe that the latest version of such a great car is only an upgrade - which technically at this point requires another upgrade before you can even do it??!!.

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Well Rob,

Basically the MSX conversion kit comes with a main chassis,upper deck,front and rear shock towers.So all you need to get for the normal 415 would be just the long arm reversiblee suspension set and the MSX conversion kit.And your car will be up to date.
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Well Rob,

Basically the MSX conversion kit comes with a main chassis,upper deck,front and rear shock towers.So all you need to get for the normal 415 would be just the long arm reversiblee suspension set and the MSX conversion kit.And your car will be up to date.
Ok, so maybe not as complicated as I thought. Is there an actual upgrade 'pack' that includes the suspension updates?

From the pics I have seen I would definately be missing out on some bling though wouldn't I? lol
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