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Old 02-15-2005, 07:32 PM   #7261
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.just some news for you 415 owners Fred medel, " my boss " at TAMIYA has asked me to start a thread for tamiya cars and set-up's,i will be starting that shortley,and also we are starting a forum on tamiya america where people can ask drivers questions,so look for that soon...

i will tell Arun to post his set-up ..

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Great idea. Thanks Fred and Fernando.
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:43 PM   #7263
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I'll contact Jurgen and tell him we have our 10. I dont think shipping will be any more to france since he's located in Germany anyway.

I'll have him ship the local spools to me and I'll distribute them so the SoCal guys can save on shipping hopefully.
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.just some news for you 415 owners Fred medel, " my boss " at TAMIYA has asked me to start a thread for tamiya cars and set-up's,i will be starting that shortley,and also we are starting a forum on tamiya america where people can ask drivers questions,so look for that soon...

i will tell Arun to post his set-up ..

Sounds good Fernando!

So how long before FM lauches a TRF section on the Tamiya USA site? before Reedy?

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Old 02-15-2005, 08:41 PM   #7265
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Default I did it......

I did it! I finally finished 243pages reading on this thread.... in just 2nights.
Now I need some serious sleep...ZZZzzz...

You guys have too many off-topic, but not as much as Serpent710 thread did....


Hope I can get my 415 soon..
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Old 02-15-2005, 08:46 PM   #7266
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Sweet, direct help from the tamiya factroy guys.

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Old 02-15-2005, 09:53 PM   #7267
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I did it! I finally finished 243pages reading on this thread.... in just 2nights.
Now I need some serious sleep...ZZZzzz...

You guys have too many off-topic, but not as much as Serpent710 thread did....


Hope I can get my 415 soon..
who is this? i see you everywhere!!!
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:14 AM   #7268
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Here is the setup that I ran at the Birds. Mine and Fernando's cars were actually very close, and I give him credit for much of it. I actually pitched up in Orlando with the old suspension in the front and the new suspension in the rear, and ended up changing while there.
We ended up stiffening up the car a lot in order to adapt the car to the very open layout and high traction.

Front:
--new style suspension, 3mm chassis with chassis posts
--MS style shock towers
--HPI steering knuckles with 5X10 bearings, old-style axles, and 46mm driveshaft
--ballstud mounted on rear hole on steering knuckle
--yokomo diff with losi brown diff grease
--3 hole piston
--AE yellow spring
--60wt tamiya oil
--shocks on 3rd hole out on shock tower, middle hole on arm (3 hole arm option)
--front toe blocks flat on chassis
--1A bridge front rear block
--1B front front block
--wheelbase: 6mm shims behind arm, 1.25mm in front of arm
--4.5mm ride height
--2.5mm of downtravel (chassis rises 2.5mm from ride height)
--4 deg caster blocks
--.7mm of shims under upper inner ballstud.
--2 deg camber L+R
--yellow swaybar
--Red 1mm wheel spacer
--glued front sidewalls

Rear:
--new-style suspension
--“worlds” 0deg uprights, ballstud on outermost hole
--MS style shock tower
--Wolfe brown spring (in between AE red and AE copper)
--50wt tamiya oil
--shocks on 4th hole out on shock tower, inner hole on arm (2 hole option)
--1B rear front block, flat on chassis
--1D rear rear block, flat on chassis
--wheelbase: 3mm shims in front of arm, 4mm behind arm
--4.5mm ride height
--1.5mm of downtravel (chassis rises 1.5mm from ride height)
--4mm of shims under upper outer ballstud (on al. upright)
--2.7mm of shims under upper inner ballstud
--2 deg camber L+R
--blue swaybar
--Blue .5mm wheel spacer

Misc:
--custom 2.5mm upper plate
--parma alfa body

Here is a pic of the upper plate:
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:28 AM   #7269
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So..... do we have the Magic 10 peopl yet Randy..??
-Dave
Yep, just waiting on a response from Jurgen now.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:30 AM   #7270
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PM me so I can set-up payment thanks
This is one thing Im waiting to hear on, hopefully everyone can just pay Jurgen directly, I dont want to be involved with that part of the deal...
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:47 AM   #7271
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who is this? i see you everywhere!!!
Well.. only 2 places (maybe 3) you saw me. I was just doing quick learning about all TRF415 trick.

BE PREPARED...
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:03 AM   #7272
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Here is the setup that I ran at the Birds. Mine and Fernando's cars were actually very close, and I give him credit for much of it. I actually pitched up in Orlando with the old suspension in the front and the new suspension in the rear, and ended up changing while there.
We ended up stiffening up the car a lot in order to adapt the car to the very open layout and high traction.

Front:
--new style suspension, 3mm chassis with chassis posts
--MS style shock towers
--HPI steering knuckles with 5X10 bearings, old-style axles, and 46mm driveshaft
--ballstud mounted on rear hole on steering knuckle
--yokomo diff with losi brown diff grease
--3 hole piston
--AE yellow spring
--60wt tamiya oil
--shocks on 3rd hole out on shock tower, middle hole on arm (3 hole arm option)
--front toe blocks flat on chassis
--1A bridge front rear block
--1B front front block
--wheelbase: 6mm shims behind arm, 1.25mm in front of arm
--4.5mm ride height
--2.5mm of downtravel (chassis rises 2.5mm from ride height)
--4 deg caster blocks
--.7mm of shims under upper inner ballstud.
--2 deg camber L+R
--yellow swaybar
--Red 1mm wheel spacer
--glued front sidewalls

Rear:
--new-style suspension
--“worlds” 0deg uprights, ballstud on outermost hole
--MS style shock tower
--Wolfe brown spring (in between AE red and AE copper)
--50wt tamiya oil
--shocks on 4th hole out on shock tower, inner hole on arm (2 hole option)
--1B rear front block, flat on chassis
--1D rear rear block, flat on chassis
--wheelbase: 3mm shims in front of arm, 4mm behind arm
--4.5mm ride height
--1.5mm of downtravel (chassis rises 1.5mm from ride height)
--4mm of shims under upper outer ballstud (on al. upright)
--2.7mm of shims under upper inner ballstud
--2 deg camber L+R
--blue swaybar
--Blue .5mm wheel spacer

Misc:
--custom 2.5mm upper plate
--parma alfa body

Here is a pic of the upper plate:
Arun - Thanks for posting your setup. One more question...What tires were you running?
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:13 AM   #7273
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Thats a good idea

Countersunk upper deck??
also a little tighter tolerance on the front camber plate to upper deck bushings.. that seems to be a point of when some chassis tweek comes from
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Dave,

I have not experienced any tweak on the car. My opinion is that the camber link plates being separated from the top deck and having their own link to the chassis prevents the chassis from tweaking a lot.

Also, the guy thinks, as I do, that coutersinking does not prevent tweak at all, it can make it permanent on the car, because no mattter how precise the countersinking is, the countersunk screws always have a very bad tolerance. However, I can suggest a keying of the top deck, especially on the front part. Remember, this will be a rubber/tarmac chassis so tweak won't be a major problem (not as much as on carpet with foams anyway).

For the multi link camber plates, I can see the point on the front, but on the rear we already have 3 positions, unless you're using the old hubs.

I can suggest a carpet/foam version of the chassis if you guys want though...
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:11 AM   #7274
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Dave,
Can you please send me the EMS tracking information. Also I left you a PM.

Keith
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Old 02-16-2005, 09:02 AM   #7275
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Default need 415ms world's kit alphalt setup please

Yes, I did try to find it within the previous 250 pages. I need the "worlds kit" suspension mount setup please.

Thanks in advance,

Jim

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