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Old 01-10-2005, 11:15 PM   #6391
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on the upper shock mounts what are the other shock parts needed to put the shock on to the shock tower??
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A screw, 2mm spacer and 5mm ball nut.
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Old 01-10-2005, 11:24 PM   #6393
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do you know what part numbers those are?
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:57 AM   #6394
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Besercoe: Thanks for the very helpful tip. I will definetly do it now.
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Old 01-11-2005, 06:10 AM   #6395
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on the steering rack i played with different spacers until it was slop free but did not bind, use the std tamiya spacers, as well as motor shims. on the steering posts add some axle shims to take up the extra play.

you wont get it all out, but i doubt anyone on these boards will notice the difference.
With the axle shims, you should only need 3 of the 0.1mm thick ones per post to take out most of the play. I still have the play in the rack, but i'f left that as is. most of my play is in the ball cups.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:24 AM   #6396
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Hey Raul, any way you could take a pic of those towers stacked on eachother with the mounting holes for the bulkheads aligned, so we can actually see if theres a difference in shock height between the 2.
Randy,, I don not have the MS towers in hand, but I will soon.... Just hold on. In the pic's of Reinhardts car, and the photos of the parts, the towers looks lower frt and rear, but others are saying controversial statements. So TryHard may be able to shoot some shots?? Thanks.
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Yes I am curious to see the difference. A stack photo would be great....

Anyone know if the is another option other than 4degree castor on the standard suspension (c-hub)

Whats the part number for the trf415 2.5mm lower deck? Is there a thinner upper deck too?
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happy to oblige....

First up, Front Tower, ill post this then do the rears.
Std on top of MS


Next, MS on top of Std


Close up detail, Std on top of MS


Finally, MS on top of Std


Looking at these it is obvious to see the MS has the holes about 1mm wider, with the holes also possibley being slighty (no more than 0.5mm) lower.
I reckonit looks lower on the car because the shape of the MS is subtley different to the Std one.

I'll post the rear ones in a few minutes.

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top notch TryHard. A very informative post.
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Next up rear towers.

Firstly, Std on top of MS,


Next, MS on top of Std,


Close up detail, Std on top of MS

Finally, MS on top of Std

Looking at these, it is obvious to see that the holes on the rear MS tower are much lower than the Std twoer, by 1mm if not more (maybe 1.5 or 2). Width wise they appear to be in the same position. It's also easy to see the lower body mount position on the MS tower to.

Anywya, hope this cleasr up some confusion.
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do you know what part numbers those are?
The blue ball nut is 53640, just use any 2mm thick shim, and a 10mm screw should work.
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Thank you for the pics TH, no more guessing. I will propably pick up a set of the standard shock towers just to use as a very fine tuning aid.
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What are the part numbers of for the MS shock towers. Just went on the Tamiya website and had a hard time finding them? Thanks.
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51190 Front
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:21 AM   #6405
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Hi all,

Been racing my TRF 415 for the first time this week end, and I gotta say I'm impressed, it's a much better car than my 414M/SSG was, and I was quite quick with it.

So far, I've been racing carpet/rubber (controlled tires/rims/inserts), using Marc's LRP TCM winning setup (apart from minor details like the outer shock tower hole and 2 toe in blocks instead of the 1 alloy ones). If you're racing on carpet with rubber, I suggest you try that setup, all I did all week end was put the car on the track and race, I haven't changed a single thing on the car, that's about how dialed it was .

This week end, will race on a totally different surface, so I'm making a spool (pinning my one way) and I'll probably start playing with setups.

One thing I noticed, the alloy turnbuckles are one of the weak points, and also the ball studs on the rear hubs .I replaced the turnbuckles with Ti ones off my 414M, and the ball stud by a ball nut/Ti screw like it has always been on the 414M.
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