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Old 12-27-2004, 11:41 AM   #5971
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I think i am going have to try this soft oil set up thing that everyone is talking about cause the basic carpet set ups that works on every other car doesnt work on this car
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Nice to see people are trying a soft chassis set-up. I've been runing the Tamiya springs, Purple Fr / Gray rears. (posted my set-up a number of pages back).

My car worked very well with this set-up. These are Tamiya's heaviest springs, 20-22.7lb range. with 50wt oil.

Remeber each person is different and prefers a different set-up. No one set-up works for everyone. I like a lot of chassis roll in my TC. Raul runnings his TC's stiff, almost like a pan car. Both cars get around well, its just a different driving style.

My style is fast. Raul uses the entire track
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:53 AM   #5973
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softer oil seems to work with the turn in speed and sems to produce a bit more grip?
the tyres we use are quite low grip even on carpet so we need the softer springs.
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Old 12-27-2004, 12:29 PM   #5975
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[B]Nice to see people are trying a soft chassis set-up. I've been runing the Tamiya springs, Purple Fr / Gray rears. (posted my set-up a number of pages back).

My car worked very well with this set-up. These are Tamiya's heaviest springs, 20-22.7lb range. with 50wt oil.
as i remember, at last years Novak race, i ran the purple/grey springs on my Evo III, rubber tires. 2-hole pistons, with 45 wt oil. i am probably gonna start about there with the 415 and Evo IV this time.
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:27 PM   #5976
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as i use rubber's on carpet so i stick with the tamiya springs.
on the back i use the yellow springs on the back with n anti roll bar and the shocks are mounted on the 2nd hole in[old shock tower].
on the front i have no anti roll bar with blue springs.
ive got 35 weight shock oil on the front with 30 on the back.
everything else is kit settings.
i still have a tad too much steering.
but these are quite soft.
as other ppl said.
Well if you are still having too much steering there are several things to try. Since you don't mention at what point in the turn you are getting too much steering, I am going to assume that it's too much initial turn in:
-Add a thick sway bar to the front (I would try this first)
-Add a sway bar to the front and remove the rear
-Stiffen up the rear springs
-Stand up the front shocks a little
-Lay down the rear shocks
-Try stand up the front shocks

These are all the things i would do to correct the problem in the order I would do them. There are many more things that would lessen the steering but I would try these first as they are easiest and one or all will more than likely correct the problem.
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:35 PM   #5977
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Does anyone know if the bulkheads from the MS mount any different than the stock 415? I might just buy a 415 and a new MS and put the MS bulkheads and goodies on the stock 415 for a carpet car that will be rarely used, lol
Randy... PM me... I can just get the MS Bulkheads if you just want them ... If not thats cool... I just ordered them last week should pick them up today
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:36 PM   #5978
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Yeah we've met ARUN. Kumpol told me about the softer setup. But I've only had 4 battery packs through this car on carpet (2nd qualifier, 3rd qualifier, main, practice after main. I missed the 1st Q setting up the car hehe). Ran great from the start. I'll give the softer setup a try this weekend since I have 2 sets of shocks. I'll see which one feels better and produces better lap times. Our track is not as small as yours.. nor as technical. It's more of a HorsePower track like the Snowbirds. So I'd be interested in seeing how the softer setup works. I'll post my findings Saturday night.
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Whoops double post. main one below.
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Koabich, Surely that should be

-stiffen up the front springs


as the rears wouldn't have an affect if it's on turn-in... ie weight is being transfered forwards, therefore front springs are being compressed, not the rears. You could try running stiffer shock oil in the rear though (or both ends for that matter)... that would have an affect, by reducing the rate the weight is transfered.

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Does anyone know if the bulkheads from the MS mount any different than the stock 415? I might just buy a 415 and a new MS and put the MS bulkheads and goodies on the stock 415 for a carpet car that will be rarely used, lol
Are you coming to the carpet race in two weeks?
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Are you coming to the carpet race in two weeks?
This is gonna sound bad, but there's a carpet race in 2 weeks?
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This is gonna sound bad, but there's a carpet race in 2 weeks?
Yeah. 2005 Northwest Carpet Champs
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