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Old 12-19-2004, 01:11 AM   #5686
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It looks as though our spur gear plate will work for the 415 too. I will have one of the local guys try it on his car to make sure it fits. It looks like it will. Here's a photo of it on a Xenon spur.



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correction: have tried it on the 415. the opening needs to be slightly bigger.

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Old 12-19-2004, 02:46 AM   #5687
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what is the weight of the yellow springs
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Old 12-19-2004, 03:53 AM   #5688
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Comment on Rubber tire carpet with old suspension vs. new LW. I remember I kept reading that Marc R prefers the old style on high tracion surfaces like carpet. The LW is more for asphalt. That is my take on what I have read since the LW suspension came out.
Yes its exactly as you said Marc is using the old suspension on carpet. Pictures from the Touring Car Carpet World Cup in Switzerland confirm this.
http://www.ps93.ch/galerie/2004/carpet-wc/carpet05g.jpg
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OK, then i will order some original arms too and try.
Springs.. Does Yokomo springs fit on the shocks with no modification? Because some Tamiyadamper-guys here say they will work, it would be awsome if i don't have to buy another whole springset
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:25 AM   #5690
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OK, then i will order some original arms too and try.
Springs.. Does Yokomo springs fit on the shocks with no modification? Because some Tamiyadamper-guys here say they will work, it would be awsome if i don't have to buy another whole springset
The old arms will not fit on the new MS chassis plate, the blocks are now closer together. Rick
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Yes its exactly as you said Marc is using the old suspension on carpet. Pictures from the Touring Car Carpet World Cup in Switzerland confirm this.
http://www.ps93.ch/galerie/2004/carpet-wc/carpet05g.jpg
That chassis seems very narrow, the batteries are almost sitting on the edge.
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The old arms will not fit on the new MS chassis plate, the blocks are now closer together. Rick
hmm, but LW arms fit on regular chassis plate? Or does the LW kit include a new chassis?

I'm leaning towards buying a regular 415 though, it's cheaper and the old susp looks like it's better on carpet, and the towers and LW set are available later if i want to race on asphalt, which is seldom more than 1 race a year..
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:52 AM   #5693
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Also the rear droop screws are barely touching the chassis too?
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The old arms will not fit on the new MS chassis plate, the blocks are now closer together. Rick
??? I thought the blocks are the same as the LW suspension just like Sparx said. Can somebody confirm this?
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??? I thought the blocks are the same as the LW suspension just like Sparx said. Can somebody confirm this?
The MS's chassis is 2.5mm thick and is designed for the new suspension. When fitting the new suspension on the old 415 you needed masses of spacers to shim it out where as with the new shassis you only need about 3mm of spacers to adjust the wheel base. Its got the blocks about as far apart as the evo 4 has and they have to cut the old wishbones to make them fit on that car.

The blocks themselves are the same on the MS and the old 415.

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OK, then i will order some original arms too and try.
Springs.. Does Yokomo springs fit on the shocks with no modification? Because some Tamiyadamper-guys here say they will work, it would be awsome if i don't have to buy another whole springset
I don't think the Yokomo springs fit. The Associated spring will work on the Tamiya shocks

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The MS's chassis is 2.5mm thick and is designed for the new suspension. When fitting the new suspension on the old 415 you needed masses of spacers to shim it out where as with the new shassis you only need about 3mm of spacers to adjust the wheel base. Its got the blocks about as far apart as the evo 4 has and they have to cut the old wishbones to make them fit on that car.

The blocks themselves are the same on the MS and the old 415.

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This means the old arms wont fit the new chassis without dremeling?

Hmm, Sleini told me the old arms will fit but its not possible changing the wheelbase.
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Anyone knows which front shock tower this is???
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Anyone knows which front shock tower this is???
That's the shock towers (both front and rear) from the first prototype TRF415 cars that Tamiya made around a year ago.

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I don't think the Yokomo springs fit. The Associated spring will work on the Tamiya shocks
The Yokomo springs do fit the TRF dampers. They are a bit shorter than Associated and Tamiya springs though.
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This means the old arms wont fit the new chassis without dremeling?

Hmm, Sleini told me the old arms will fit but its not possible changing the wheelbase.
They possibly do fit but you will need the adjustment to get the wheelbase correct. Rick
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