3LikesTamiya TRF415
11-19-2004, 03:10 AM
#4936
trf-415 testing on carpet with foam tires
Originally posted by koabich
[B]I would have done this myself but using a lower kingpin messes with the roll center of the car.
I did shave the tops off of the ball cups and so far it has been perfect. I have hit walls hard enough to bend the aluminum turnbuckles but so far I have not had a ball cup pop off because i shaved the top.]
[B]I would have done this myself but using a lower kingpin messes with the roll center of the car.
I did shave the tops off of the ball cups and so far it has been perfect. I have hit walls hard enough to bend the aluminum turnbuckles but so far I have not had a ball cup pop off because i shaved the top.]
[B]
If you are using rear sway-bars mounted in the stock location, you WILL need spacers or else the tires will run on the sway bar mounts. Also 28mm foams will rub on the lower shock cup (where the shock end mounts to the A-arm) if the shock is mounted on the outer most hole on the front A-Arms (during turns) without spacers.]
If you are using rear sway-bars mounted in the stock location, you WILL need spacers or else the tires will run on the sway bar mounts. Also 28mm foams will rub on the lower shock cup (where the shock end mounts to the A-arm) if the shock is mounted on the outer most hole on the front A-Arms (during turns) without spacers.]
I run 28MM jaco tires all around and i do not narrow them.
I use 1.5mm of spacers on each wheel. this is all that is needed to prevent rubbing, with the exception of trimming a little off of the ball cup. An a stock car the 1.5 mm worth of spacers will make the car wider than 190mm however. If you are worried about being race legal, in the front use the A/D or the A/C block combo and you will be between 188mm and 189mm.
Thanks for all the information!!!
11-19-2004, 04:11 AM
#4937
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: trf-415 testing on carpet with foam tires
Originally posted by koabich
I would have done this myself but using a lower kingpin messes with the roll center of the car.
I did shave the tops off of the ball cups and so far it has been perfect. I have hit walls hard enough to bend the aluminum turnbuckles but so far I have not had a ball cup pop off because i shaved the top.
If you are using rear sway-bars mounted in the stock location, you WILL need spacers or else the tires will run on the sway bar mounts. Also 28mm foams will rub on the lower shock cup (where the shock end mounts to the A-arm) if the shock is mounted on the outer most hole on the front A-Arms (during turns) without spacers
I run 28MM jaco tires all around and i do not narrow them.
I use 1.5mm of spacers on each wheel. this is all that is needed to prevent rubbing, with the exception of trimming a little off of the ball cup. An a stock car the 1.5 mm worth of spacers will make the car wider than 190mm however. If you are worried about being race legal, in the front use the A/D or the A/C block combo and you will be between 188mm and 189mm.
I would have done this myself but using a lower kingpin messes with the roll center of the car.
I did shave the tops off of the ball cups and so far it has been perfect. I have hit walls hard enough to bend the aluminum turnbuckles but so far I have not had a ball cup pop off because i shaved the top.
If you are using rear sway-bars mounted in the stock location, you WILL need spacers or else the tires will run on the sway bar mounts. Also 28mm foams will rub on the lower shock cup (where the shock end mounts to the A-arm) if the shock is mounted on the outer most hole on the front A-Arms (during turns) without spacers
I run 28MM jaco tires all around and i do not narrow them.
I use 1.5mm of spacers on each wheel. this is all that is needed to prevent rubbing, with the exception of trimming a little off of the ball cup. An a stock car the 1.5 mm worth of spacers will make the car wider than 190mm however. If you are worried about being race legal, in the front use the A/D or the A/C block combo and you will be between 188mm and 189mm.
11-19-2004, 04:16 AM
#4938
28 mm
Koabich,
since you live in the detroit area, give TM wheels a jingle, and order a set of them, they are larger OD than the Jaco's. I believe Jaco's have the smallest OD rim. You will not be dissapointed. CHeck out Dawgmeat photo, that is the rim and size.
since you live in the detroit area, give TM wheels a jingle, and order a set of them, they are larger OD than the Jaco's. I believe Jaco's have the smallest OD rim. You will not be dissapointed. CHeck out Dawgmeat photo, that is the rim and size.
11-19-2004, 06:03 AM
#4939
Re: trf-415 testing on carpet with foam tires
Is the rear wider than 190mm with the 1.5 spacers and the stock block setup?
Thanks for all the information!!!
Thanks for all the information!!!
11-19-2004, 06:05 AM
#4940
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: trf-415 testing on carpet with foam tires
Originally posted by dawgmeat
a/c front blocks does c come with the kit
a/c front blocks does c come with the kit
11-19-2004, 12:44 PM
#4943
Originally posted by 190mph
The excel sheet seems to indicate zero toe for 2 A Blocks. I don't know exactly.
The excel sheet seems to indicate zero toe for 2 A Blocks. I don't know exactly.
Hope that helps.
Ed
11-20-2004, 09:30 PM
#4948
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Hey guys. I have finally decided to dump my TC3. I have been driving it since they first came out. I have been torn between the 415 and Mi2 for carpet racing.
Can you clear something up for me? The 415 is more for carpet than the 415MS? I hear that that 415 is discontinued. True? If so, what about parts availability?
Can you clear something up for me? The 415 is more for carpet than the 415MS? I hear that that 415 is discontinued. True? If so, what about parts availability?
11-20-2004, 10:23 PM
#4949
If you plan on racing carpet, forget about the Mi2. Chassis is way too thin and flexes way too much (I tried too race this before I bought a 415). The 415 is not discountinued. Which one will be better for carpet, the 415 or the 415MS...the stock 415 has the better foundation for carpet...thicker chassis (3mm vs. 2.5mm - less flex) and the stock 415 suspension (much better for tight, high traction tracks than the LW suspension) but you will need a front diff and and the locked layshaft pulley.
11-20-2004, 10:31 PM
#4950
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Thanks. I think I will go with the 415 and ge the options you suggested. No one way in the front?
