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Old 12-01-2003, 08:23 PM   #436
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Some racers own more than a couple of extra shock sets. It makes it really easy to switch from 400weight to say 600weight without rebuilding shocks during a race weekend. Updating all of those shocks with the newer bling bling blue bits could take a while
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It is possible that those dark colored shocks are hard anodized. I am just guessing though.
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:52 AM   #438
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It is possible that those dark colored shocks are hard anodized. I am just guessing though.
Fluorine coated as usuall since TRF414WCR
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:44 AM   #439
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Hi Guys,

The TRF 415 will be for sale for around 60,000 Yen ... but how will this car compare to the TB EVO 3 ?

I own a TB EVO 3 and am really happy with it ... why are Tamiya going back to a belt driven car? Everyone is opting for a shaft driven car nowadays ... like the Yokomo, HPI, etc. etc.

Can it really compete with shaft cars?
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Old 12-02-2003, 09:55 AM   #440
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WOW~ 60,000yen. That's $550.97USD. Pretty expensive.
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Hi Guys,

The TRF 415 will be for sale for around 60,000 Yen ... but how will this car compare to the TB EVO 3 ?

I own a TB EVO 3 and am really happy with it ... why are Tamiya going back to a belt driven car? Everyone is opting for a shaft driven car nowadays ... like the Yokomo, HPI, etc. etc.

Can it really compete with shaft cars?
They're not going backwards. Ever since they started the touring car craze. They always gave the consumer options of belt and shaft set-up. They continue to give the consumers a choice. The belt will continue to improve with the TA line and rumors are already starting of a development for the TB Evo 4.
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Old 12-02-2003, 10:02 AM   #442
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Can it really compete with shaft cars?
Of course it can! and it showed at the reedy race. I don't believe shaft is necessarily better than belt, both have pros and cons. I personally believe the TRF 414M2 to be tamiya greatest touring car...but lets not kick that debate off again!
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Hi Guys,

The TRF 415 will be for sale for around 60,000 Yen ... but how will this car compare to the TB EVO 3 ?

I own a TB EVO 3 and am really happy with it ... why are Tamiya going back to a belt driven car? Everyone is opting for a shaft driven car nowadays ... like the Yokomo, HPI, etc. etc.

Can it really compete with shaft cars?
I read some postings / reports about the Reedy Asia saying that Surikarn's speed and consistency were identical during the weeks running the TB and after when running the 415. But the 415 "looked" a lot easier to drive.

..Tamiya going back to a belt driven ..? wait until they launch the 415, then you'd hear more about Evo4
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Let's be serious here ... did you expect Tamiya drivers to perform better with the TB EVO 3 rather than with the new TRF 415? At the end they are just part of a selling team
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Yeah, and didn't you expect Barry and the other drivers to slow down to allow the TRF drivers to make good results with their crappy car ? This including Hara with his Evo 3, of course he slowed down to let "The Champ" finidh before him.

What you said is just irrelevant IMHO.
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Are you saying that simply because the TRF 415 finished before the TB EVO 3 ... means that it is actually a better car

I think it only a sales matter
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:06 AM   #447
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To be honest, I do hope the TRF 415 is a far better car than the Evo 3, and it better be if it hopes to have any chance. The main evo 3 problem with the stripping gears is far too big as a fault. The TRF 415 should be much better.(fingers crossed!)
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But do you all really believe that a belt drive can be better than a shaft drive ... please convince me
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Ok fine. Lets compare the TRF 414M and the Evo 3...do I need to say more???The TRF 414M is a masterpiece, which is more than can be said for the evo 3.
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So you are telling me that if I buy the TRF 415, I will have more acceleration and straight line speed than the TB EVO 3 (same final gearing) ?
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