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Old 10-04-2004, 01:28 PM   #4126
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Anyone know what the diffeence is on the shock towers. I remeber talk about drilling more holes in the rear to stand the shock up more with the new suspension.
Drilling one additional hole on the current rear shock tower is very easy. You just need an EVO III rear shock tower as a template. Works with both old and new suspension.
But the new shocktowers look more different to me. I know the early prototyp 415 shock towers were different to the production ones. Maybe the new towers are the same as the prototyp ones.
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Drilling one additional hole on the current rear shock tower is very easy. You just need an EVO III rear shock tower as a template. Works with both old and new suspension.
But the new shocktowers look more different to me. I know the early prototyp 415 shock towers were different to the production ones. Maybe the new towers are the same as the prototyp ones.
Do you know if Marc has these new shock tower?
When will it be avalaible?
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Old 10-04-2004, 01:46 PM   #4128
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Didnīt find anything on the Tamiya website regarding the shock towers.
These look very similar to the ones Marc Rheinard and Marc Fischer were using yesterday. Seems the shocks were a little more laydown.
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Hello V12

Did you receive your alum rear and front diffs yet? If so, how well do the blades fit?

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It also looks like there is a lot less material. No place to mount the upper suspension link on the tower anymore. Also no place for the third body mount. You are right they don look more laid down, especially the front.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:55 PM   #4131
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Did you receive your alum rear and front diffs yet? If so, how well do the blades fit?

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No, I have to wait a little more. I know they are ready now but Jürgen tries some things I told him. Iīm not in a hurry as I donīt have a track here for testing. Got a picture from him from the rear diff
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:03 PM   #4132
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Hmm. I forgot anything?
This time Sorex28 was the control tire and I think about all drivers used the Team Orion/JB blue inserts. Most drivers used PF Mazda or Nemesis.
Modifications were white belts and rear uprights were the aluminium 1°.
Interesting thing was some other not-Tamiya drivers as Jonas Andersson and others used the Tamiya shocks with the exact same springs,pistons and oil as the TRF guys. So there are new cars as the Ti2 and TRO4?
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I'm actually pretty sure that I didn't use the same piston/oil/rebound setup as the "Marc's", especially not in the finals when I tried some wild things, but otherwise you are sadly correct... I hope you had a nice time watching the race!
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by the way Jonas you ruled at the NEC reedy race in the uk. was wicked to watch.
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I'm actually pretty sure that I didn't use the same piston/oil/rebound setup as the "Marc's", especially not in the finals when I tried some wild things, but otherwise you are sadly correct... I hope you had a nice time watching the race!
Jonas,

Is it possible to post your shock setup? It's for a friend.

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@Evo_Uk
Thank you for those kind words, but in all honesty that was Barrys race from start to finish. It was amazing to see him win 9 out of 10 rounds! I sure had a blast at that race though, that small, technical and super high grip track was just made for some spectacular driving!!!
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I'm actually pretty sure that I didn't use the same piston/oil/rebound setup as the "Marc's", especially not in the finals when I tried some wild things, but otherwise you are sadly correct... I hope you had a nice time watching the race!
Hi Jonas
Yes was nice watching the close race. I hope you liked the race there.
Hmm, regarding the rebound from the outside you canīt see the setup used. Maybe Iīm wrong but didnīt you write on the shocks what oil and pistons you were using? But OK I didnīt look at your car after each run.

BTW are you coming to the Orion Classics in Zillisheim in 4 weeks?
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@Hugo,
No problem, but I'm not sure about how it will work on other tracks. The CS-race carpet was not especially high bite, but as it was laid upon another sort of carpet it felt as though the car "got stuck" sometimes. As it also had no less than 3 chicanes on it the car had to be able to change direction rather fast, and with some sort of balance.

My dampers-setup, same both front and rear:
Oil: Schumacher 35 wt
Piston: Old grey, with rounded edges, HPI #2 (you can probably use standard Tamiya 2 hole-pistons too)
Rebound: Standard bladders, black Yokomo foam (red Tamiya-foam is just as good)

Now I just need to come up with a good excuse to why I give Tamiya drivers setup-tips. May get into trouble for this...

@V12,
I actually only write which position the damper has on the car (like LF, RF, RR and LR). I started out with 60 wt oil and 3-hole pistons though, which I believe is what the Tamiys guys are using, but I may be wrong. Anyway, it was a very nice race with a good atmosphere during the whole weekend. The hall was also VERY impressive! I'm not sure if I will attend the race in Zillisheim this year, it may be too close to the Worlds, but it would be a pity to miss it.
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good luck at the worlds. Maybe you can make it to Zillisheim. Itīs always a nice race.
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Jonas,

Thanks for the answer and Good luck in Florida.
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Now I just need to come up with a good excuse to why I give Tamiya drivers setup-tips. May get into trouble for this...
Because we're a friendly bunch really...

Have you tried 60wt Schumacher oil with the 3 hole pistons per chance? if so what did you think? I swapped to this recently after noticing most of the TRF drivers using this shock setup (I had previously been using Schumacher 50wt oil with 2 hole piston, and the new shock setup seems fairly similar)
[EDIT - Might help if I read whole post beforehand, although I blame the Alc-hic-hol.... )

Any chance of describing what the change in piston (ie from 2 hole to 3 hole) does? I've been trying to work through it myself, and have got no-where.

Good luck at the worlds by the way. Not far off now

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