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Old 11-05-2003, 11:13 AM   #196
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Countersinking the top decks is not a valid solution to prevent tweaking. Indeed, it tweaks the chassis. The only difference is that it tweaks it permanently.
Countersunk screws will allways center themselve. So when a car is perfectly made wou will never have tweak exept if you would bend some part. Look at a 414, the bulkheads are exactly the same left and right becouse they are made on the same machine. That's why you got the same screw holes on both rear parts. Afterwards they machine the bearing holes. To be good they should also countersink the holes where the cooling beam comes like on Atlas cars. Countersinking is really a perfect sollution for making a car perfectly straight!



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Is it me or does the 415 look like a losi with the motor sticking out on the leftside and the cells down the rightside but with 2 belts instead of 1.
It is just you . The only parts that are compatilbe between these is shock oil .
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Old 11-05-2003, 11:25 AM   #197
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The hobby co have about 5 414 WCR on the shelf that the cannot shift from what i hear.

Also they never imported the Evo 3 S.

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Old 11-05-2003, 11:35 AM   #198
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The TAMIYA Team drivers at the REEDY countersunk thier top decks of the EVOIII.....
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Nope Barry White, I must say I don't agree with you. No part can ever be exactly the same, even the head of the screws are not perfect.

Therefore, countersinking the top deck will only make an even more hyperstatic system and you don't know what it's going to be.

I don't like that and had never such a big issue with my 414 as to say I must get rid of my chassis being tweaked.

The only proper way to have a non tweaked chassis is to give the structure a degree of freedom.
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how do you do it?
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ha ha, but people are obsessed by having the stiffest possible chassis, so it is not possible, not with this kind of structure.

Anyway, you could use a turnbuckle like on the axis 2, this car works great and has no tweak issue. Or you can just put o-rings (from old shocks for ex) between the top deck and the rear bulkhead. It will give a softer chassis, but will provide more grip on the rear and the car will have no tweak issue. I did it on my old TRF 414 (number E069 hehe) and the car was awesome.
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I had tweakproblems with my EVO3 all the time. Now after countersinking the top deck this problem has gone away completely.
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What's up slowhand, so My brother are telling the truth about the TRF 415.

I really wish I could go to Bangkok for the Reedy Race
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Of course. Your brother was one of a few people who saw the Champ new ride up close. You would not be disappointed with this new machine. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Removing spur gear: you only need to open one screw, then slide the center shaft and pull up the spur gears together with the adapter. The car was certainly much easier to drive n was also fast.

Don't wish, just buy the airplane ticket and off you go. We'd be happy to have you here.
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...welp, I'll be in Khon Kaen
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It would be cool if Surikarn was a member of this forum, that way we could ask him about it....if only...lol
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The hobby co have about 5 414 WCR on the shelf that the cannot shift from what i hear.

Also they never imported the Evo 3 S.

Rick
actully the hobby co imported 5 evo3 sl and they all went to apex who sold them for 500 a piece.
i dont think they even got the wcr in.
if they do have some i would get another but i know they dont so i cant!
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It would be cool if Surikarn was a member of this forum, that way we could ask him about it....if only...lol
Tamiya TRF 415 Surikarn Edition!!!! Red aluminum with optional SSG or Black graphite chassis, full titanium screws and turnbuckles. Price: $1,000,0000 (and thats US dollars too)

Just kidding. It'll be cool to see who switches to the 415 first, and how it does in a big race. It seems like Tamiya either follows traditional designs or other companies copy Tamiya, but nevertheless it's nice to see Tamiya making something sorta different from what's out there.
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...welp, I'll be in Khon Kaen
when r u arriving in BKK? drop by RC Club2 n see us before Khon Khaen
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Of course. Your brother was one of a few people who saw the Champ new ride up close. You would not be disappointed with this new machine. Satisfaction guaranteed.

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Don't wish, just buy the airplane ticket and off you go. We'd be happy to have you here.
I've heard that "he" is faster with "his" new ride. The car is so stable and easy to drive, and it seems that the car has plenty of grip.

Hey, I gotta work here , otherwise, I'll be in Bangkok

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