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Old 04-12-2009, 12:02 AM   #20416
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Cool thanks

Looks great. There is`t any HK onlinestore to buy, but only that bittydesing in Italy?
I guess it's nice to have friends in all the right places. Today I was handed a specially built lipo tray designed specifically for the 415. This tray is nice and now I can run 5000's without any issues. I may have to post a few pics after the easter egg hunt tomorrow
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:21 AM   #20417
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Second from the outside on the front and second from the inside on the rear and yes it was very aggressive.

Hey Phil , Ive put all the 416 parts on the car and it feels gooood .
The way i see it with the short arms,knuckles,uprights,suspension blocks and ackerman spacers all 416 with the 10x5 bearings in the right places (instead of the 9x5's) i should see a bit of a difference.

Have a great easter

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can you give me a list of parts / numbers you used please

gonna try that too or maybe upgrade to an TRF416WE
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Old 04-12-2009, 04:21 PM   #20418
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I couldnt get any diff covers so I have just rebuilt it without. How much sooner do you think I'll have to rebuild it?
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:50 AM   #20419
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I couldnt get any diff covers so I have just rebuilt it without. How much sooner do you think I'll have to rebuild it?
i never use diff covers

i do use the team assosiated ball diff grease though and rebuild every 4 to 5 days of track time

it has never slipped since i changed from tamiya grease and it can be se really loose if you need it and still no slippage !!!
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Old 04-13-2009, 03:43 AM   #20420
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You should use it, i think

I just rebuilt my MRE special diff (16 balls) and i covered it with JAAD covers and i think it last forever. Ok, before that i made it last summer..

Racingfactory have them in stock i guess. Give then email and check it

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Old 04-13-2009, 04:46 AM   #20421
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i've ordered all the parts for the 16 ball diff conversion

let you know how i get on with it

wat the 416 suspension parts i think
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:27 PM   #20422
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I'm getting ready to order some bearings but am not sure what the complete dimensions are for the 415 original and 415 MS. I don't have the bearings with me so I can't measure them. I did look at the manuals online but they list only two of the three dimesions of the bearing...those would be the inner and outer diameters, but not the the thicknesses. Any help would be appreciated.

415 original
11x5x? axles
6x3x? steering linkage plate
15x10x? outdrives
8x4x? center shaft

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9x5x? axles

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Old 04-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #20423
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can you give me a list of parts / numbers you used please

gonna try that too or maybe upgrade to an TRF416WE
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Just buy this 54083 RC Short Reversible Susp Set

Set Contents
RCC TRF416 C Bag x 1
TB Evo5 D Bag (Dx2) x 2
RCC TRF416 E Bag (E) x 1
RCC TRF416 F4 Bag (F4) x 1
OP.587 5mm Shim Set Shim Bag (0.1mm) x 1
OP.585 3mm Shim Set Shim Bag (0.1mm) x 1
1050ZZ Bearing (CN) Domestic Stock x 8
4mm Adjuster 2(Black) (4) x 1
5mm Adjuster 2(Black) (4) x 3
3x10mm Screw[Black Trivalent Chromate] x 3
4.1x11.5x1.0mm Spacer (Alu.) Not anodized x 4
5.5x0.5mm Setting Spacer (Alu.) x 8
5.5x2.0mm Setting Spacer (Blue) x 4
5x6.4x1.5mm Spacer (Blue) x 4
3x10mm Screw [Black Nickel] x 3
4.1x11.5x0.5mm Spacer (Alu.) Not anodized x 4
5.5x1.0mm Setting Spacer (Blue) x 4
5.5x3.0mm Setting Spacer (Alu.) Not anodized x 8
RCC TRF414X 3x0.7mm Spacer
5x9mm Ball Connector(Lube Plated) x 2
RCC TB Evo IV Flange Tube S(Black Nickel) x 2�
5mm Ball Connector (Black)m=0� x 10
3x10mm Screw Set (Black ACP) x 8
3x8mm Screw Set(Black ACP) x 2
3x3mm Grub Screw(W-Point)
[Trivalent Chromate] x 5
4.5x3.5mm Flange Tube x 2
RCC TRF416 Wheel Axle x 4
2.6x22mm Stainless Shaft x 2
2.6x25mm Stainless Shaft x 2
RCC TRF414M Cross Joint x 4
2x9.8mm Needle Roller Pin x 4
3x2.5mm Grub Screw (Black) x 5
TRF414M WCR (RC Limited Ed.) Clamp type
Alu. Wheel Hub x 4
1.6mmx4mm Cap Screw (Ni) x 5
2x10mm Stainless Shaft x 4
1.5mm Hexagon Wrench (14x45)JIS Standard x 1
Box (New) x 1
Instruction Manual (New) x 1

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Old 04-13-2009, 11:37 PM   #20424
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that set is for the TA-05

will it fit the TRF415 ??

and will it make so much differance ??
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:08 AM   #20425
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that set is for the TA-05

will it fit the TRF415 ??

and will it make so much differance ??
You dont need all that , will list it and PM ya

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Just buy this 54083 RC Short Reversible Susp Set...
Even after you buy that, you still have to get the correct suspension blocks to bring the track width back out...

You can get away with just ordering the two pairs of short arms, and getting the suspension blocks to match. That's really all you need to get the short suspension on your car.

As for which blocks to use, check the first couple pages of the Jilles Groskamp thread to find different setups for different conditions...

If you want to run the bigger wheel bearings, I think you only need the rear uprights, front steering knuckles, and the TB03 axles. I think you also need 2mm shorter driveshafts due to the wider wheel axles...
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Even after you buy that, you still have to get the correct suspension blocks to bring the track width back out...

You can get away with just ordering the two pairs of short arms, and getting the suspension blocks to match. That's really all you need to get the short suspension on your car.

As for which blocks to use, check the first couple pages of the Jilles Groskamp thread to find different setups for different conditions...

If you want to run the bigger wheel bearings, I think you only need the rear uprights, front steering knuckles, and the TB03 axles. I think you also need 2mm shorter driveshafts due to the wider wheel axles...
So can you describe to me what that changes? What I mean by my question is- if you keep the overall width the same, what does having the shorter arm do for you?
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Old 04-14-2009, 11:00 AM   #20428
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You dont need all that , will list it and PM ya

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thank you my man
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Old 04-14-2009, 02:30 PM   #20429
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So can you describe to me what that changes? What I mean by my question is- if you keep the overall width the same, what does having the shorter arm do for you?
Well it causes the lower arm angle to change more throughout the suspension stroke. I have no idea what this actually means handeling wise, but Jilles Groskamp personally recommend I jump on this bandwagon (especially for small tracks he said). None of the Tamiya team uses or recommends the long arms any more. I guess their old news now...

I havn't made the switch yet...

BTW: Read the Gilles Groskamp thread. Team Tamiya shares all their information and he will personally answer any question regarding setup, parts etc...
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yeah but isn't that just for the TRF416 ??

i dont mind asking on there but wanted it to stay on topic
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