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Old 04-24-2008, 04:57 PM   #19711
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Hi! What are the internal gear ratio of the following:

TRF 415
TRF 415 MS
TRF 415 MSX
TRF 415 MSX MRE
TRF 415 MSXX
TRF 415 MSXX MRE
TRF 416

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Hi! What are the internal gear ratio of the following:

TRF 415
TRF 415 MS
TRF 415 MSX
TRF 415 MSX MRE
TRF 415 MSXX
TRF 415 MSXX MRE
TRF 416

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TRF415, MS, MSX - 2.188 (35/16)

MSX MRE, MSXX, MSXX MRE - 2.250 (36/16)
Although if modded to use the 18t pulleys, it gives 2.000 (36/18)

TRF416 - 2.056 (37/18)

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Old 04-24-2008, 05:43 PM   #19714
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Hello, Is there a difference between a D block and a 1D block??...... Just wondering?

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Nothing in width, but 1mm in height (D stands 1mm taller than 1D).

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Old 04-24-2008, 06:27 PM   #19715
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Hi! What are the internal gear ratio of the following:

TRF 415
TRF 415 MS
TRF 415 MSX
TRF 415 MSX MRE
TRF 415 MSXX
TRF 415 MSXX MRE
TRF 416

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at the moment my 415msx is running 35/18 roll out 1.94 using a S400 rear gear diff and is awsume
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:12 AM   #19716
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If you had asked we would have told you right from the start to put your pack at the front...
fun to try out new thing.


I just wonder why the porsche 911(rear engine car) has mostly a 40/60 to even a 32/68 weight distribution, yet they still perform so blancened at the track ???

maybe if I can get some 32mm or even 34mm tire. then I can put more weight to the rear to try out somemore thingz.
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Old 04-25-2008, 03:21 AM   #19717
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fun to try out new thing.


I just wonder why the porsche 911(rear engine car) has mostly a 40/60 to even a 32/68 weight distribution, yet they still perform so blancened at the track ???

maybe if I can get some 32mm or even 34mm tire. then I can put more weight to the rear to try out somemore thingz.
Porsche aren't quite easy to drive, they tend to lose the back end and you need to be a good driver to be able to push them.

As I said, just leave it at the front or you'll suffer from the pendulum effect.
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:06 AM   #19718
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As we all know, car setup is all very much an individual thing, what works for one doesnt work for you. Hence why I dont look at team driver setups for all my inspiration when looking to get the most from the car.

A couple of large sweeping corners in a lower grip situation may be good for a pendulum style setup on weight transfer to the back end, but!

a) it might not suit your own driving style

b) it might not suit the other corners you need to get round on that same said track.

That said, the 415 with its motor position layout does already put some of your overall electronics weight to the rear of the car, with the motor in the place it is.

All I would say is, try it but dont expect it to help you in all the corners, it is quite an art to race a car well with a lot of rear weight and to get right consistantly. It would probably work better with higher powered motors where you have more power to throw the car about.

If anything, a 4 wheel drift setup might feel a little more settled and allow better cornering if you are into the art of getting a car around with some degree of wanting the car to do the work more than choosing the right line with a more traditional setup where the back end sticks more
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:51 AM   #19719
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at the moment my 415msx is running 35/18 roll out 1.94 using a S400 rear gear diff and is awsume
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Hey Steven

Did you try that geardiff outdoor?
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:05 AM   #19720
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911 is rear Wheel Drive, weight=traction
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Old 04-25-2008, 01:31 PM   #19721
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Hey Steven

Did you try that geardiff outdoor?
yes (run on a tennis court asphalt)and i find it to be an excellent addition to the 415msx , only had an old 540 motor in as the track was rather small and just setting up after the rebuild.
Also run my SMC 4000 lipos to see how long i would get out of the pack (30min) no worries then the rain came down.
will be running ata track up the coast next weekend with a orion 10.5 so will see how every thing goes.
Run it without any shim , the rear belt seems to be ok no chafing.
Looking forward to putting the MM 4600 and 7700 in for a squirt.
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Hey all,

Well, I've made some changes to my website, mainly turning it over too the TRF416. If you want to find the TRF415 pages, they are still there, just need to head over here now and follow the link... http://www.thard.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=7

I've kept the Setups, tips and tricks and info pages, everything else can be found elsewhere in the forum.

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Old 04-26-2008, 06:53 AM   #19723
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i have been told that from msx to msxx mre all the front and read diff/spool/oneway width are the same, just that the pullies are different. is it true?
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i have been told that from msx to msxx mre all the front and read diff/spool/oneway width are the same, just that the pullies are different. is it true?
No entirely, the spool and one ways are the same width but the screw locations are different from the MSX to the MRE but the same from the MRE to the MSXX. I had problems trying to fit the 36 front pulley on an MSX spool.
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:53 PM   #19725
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Does anybody know if a body of a trf415 will fit straight on to a trf415 msx mre chassis. thanks
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