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Old 03-05-2008, 06:34 PM   #19576
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haha, so it is.... thought Spool center ment the centre part of the spool... my bad
casino_kids-- have you try to put s400 rear diff on 415 msx yet? are they fit nicely or we need to do some shimming?
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:34 AM   #19577
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casino_kids-- have you try to put s400 rear diff on 415 msx yet? are they fit nicely or we need to do some shimming?
Nope... and I would want too either
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:55 PM   #19578
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no it has not arrived as yet but from what information i have gathered from various places it will be a close fit.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:35 AM   #19579
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Does anybody know where i can get some aluminium front uprights for my 415 msx mre.
i believe this will fit Square R/C EVO4 Front Steering Knuckle. but who has them in stock??

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Old 03-09-2008, 12:30 PM   #19580
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hi can any one help with out door set ups for this car also will trackpower 49oomah lipos fit.
wher can i get hold of a compleat batterie strap from please thanks
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:47 PM   #19581
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Tamiy Kid that depends on how high the Trakpower 4900 packs are, it is very likely that you would have to remove some material from the right rear bulkhead.
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:02 PM   #19582
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I guess you are all busy building your 416s? lol If the ta05 manual is anything to go by, it should be a very well documented build manual

Any differential build tips for me to make a butter smooth diff?
hi thanks the size of lipos are 137mm lenth 46mm wide and 23mm height.
where can i get spares from especially battery strap thanks
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Old 03-09-2008, 02:56 PM   #19583
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Yes so based on those specs I think you'd have to remove about 2.5mm from the humps on the right rear bulkhead, I've always just taped my packs into these chassis but I've seen someone use the stick pack battery mounts from the TA05MS quite successfully.
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:27 PM   #19584
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Ed or other...

Lookng for a little help.

I have been using your last carpet setup on thard site on msx other than ho rear blocks.

The car has been great for club racing super easy to drive and I have been on a tear of wins at my low/med grip club track.

However I attended an event today that had off the chart grip as a result of turnout of racers and mostly a foam event. Jet black driving groove. I struggled with traction rolling only on 180 degree turns. I was also slightly apparent on sweepers but I could drive around that.

I tried many things to resolve the problem and not one thing seemed to help. The only way to stop the traction roll was 15 clicks of positive throttle trim to stop weight transfer and then I tried a yellow sway bar w/o throttle trim and it induced understeer everywhere else but stopped the traction rolling.

Has anyone run a rubber car on super high grip something like you would experience at IIC or other major foam based tracks with paragon?

I ran out of time but I wanted to try much heavier shock oil front and rear.

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Ed or other...

Lookng for a little help.

I have been using your last carpet setup on thard site on msx other than ho rear blocks.

The car has been great for club racing super easy to drive and I have been on a tear of wins at my low/med grip club track.

However I attended an event today that had off the chart grip as a result of turnout of racers and mostly a foam event. Jet black driving groove. I struggled with traction rolling only on 180 degree turns. I was also slightly apparent on sweepers but I could drive around that.

I tried many things to resolve the problem and not one thing seemed to help. The only way to stop the traction roll was 15 clicks of positive throttle trim to stop weight transfer and then I tried a yellow sway bar w/o throttle trim and it induced understeer everywhere else but stopped the traction rolling.

Has anyone run a rubber car on super high grip something like you would experience at IIC or other major foam based tracks with paragon?

I ran out of time but I wanted to try much heavier shock oil front and rear.

Thanks
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Hi Jamie, you could try less rear droop, as that would stop the wegiht transfer forward. try 5 rather than 4.
Otherwise, on really high traction, try raising the rollcentres more, this will reduce the amount of roll in the car, and I've found it too work well on higher grip. Try 1mm under all the blocks, just remember to reset your droop.

Harder oils will help a little too.

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Ed or other...

Lookng for a little help.

I have been using your last carpet setup on thard site on msx other than ho rear blocks.

The car has been great for club racing super easy to drive and I have been on a tear of wins at my low/med grip club track.

However I attended an event today that had off the chart grip as a result of turnout of racers and mostly a foam event. Jet black driving groove. I struggled with traction rolling only on 180 degree turns. I was also slightly apparent on sweepers but I could drive around that.

I tried many things to resolve the problem and not one thing seemed to help. The only way to stop the traction roll was 15 clicks of positive throttle trim to stop weight transfer and then I tried a yellow sway bar w/o throttle trim and it induced understeer everywhere else but stopped the traction rolling.

Has anyone run a rubber car on super high grip something like you would experience at IIC or other major foam based tracks with paragon?

I ran out of time but I wanted to try much heavier shock oil front and rear.

Thanks
Jamie
Jamie or Ed

Which sheet on tHard did you use? I've been having exactly the same problem you started out with and our track is quite low grip right now. the back end on my msx likes to be in front of the car exitting (and some times entering) corners. I've done a lot to try to remedy the problem but just don't see the results.

Frankly, this car seems quite oversteer happy right now. even with no traction compound on the fronts and the rears practically soaked in it.

My msx has a direct center and diffs front and rear, running foams, 5-6mm ride hieght, with about 2-3mm upward travel (droop?)

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Old 03-12-2008, 09:17 AM   #19587
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Another thing you can do to takeoff some steering is less ackerman angle, which I found a major factor on steering characteristic.
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Jamie or Ed

Which sheet on tHard did you use? I've been having exactly the same problem you started out with and our track is quite low grip right now. the back end on my msx likes to be in front of the car exitting (and some times entering) corners. I've done a lot to try to remedy the problem but just don't see the results.

Frankly, this car seems quite oversteer happy right now. even with no traction compound on the fronts and the rears practically soaked in it.

My msx has a direct center and diffs front and rear, running foams, 5-6mm ride hieght, with about 2-3mm upward travel (droop?)

FYI Ed. LOVE the site.
That setup is really for rubbers. With foams, I would look more towards the one run by Marc R at the IIC. Basically... whack a front roll bar on it

http://www.thard.co.uk/415/setups/MR...(IIC05)MSX.jpg

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how well would you expect this set-up to work on 'Super bad grip carpet' marc's set up was for 'super high grip carpet'. last night it was like an ice racing derby...
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how well would you expect this set-up to work on 'Super bad grip carpet' marc's set up was for 'super high grip carpet'. last night it was like an ice racing derby...
hehe, probably not too bad, it would be a bit sliddy though. Maybe try dropping the spring rates down a few clicks too help generate more grip.
Marc used Xray springs, so try a combo of Purple (28) F and Dark Blue (25) R, or even Dark Blue/Blue F/R.

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