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Old 06-29-2007, 04:42 PM   #18736
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This was 19t/10.5 class. I didn't crash but just clipped the sweeper wall which tends to have little edges that can grab tires or axle studs. And it was only the right side as you can see the multiple times/bends that I clipped the wall. I think the hardened axles will be fine in the rear. Just play it safe and go with Ti up front for club racing.
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Old 06-29-2007, 06:43 PM   #18737
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Its unlikely you will feel the difference between the aluminum and titanium ones, let alone the steel ones. I would just stick with the steel axles.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:01 AM   #18738
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If I get the short suspension arms (53928) will I need to replace my 46mm swing shafts with 42mm ones? I am running 1A-1B suspension mounts on the front and 1XB-1D suspension mounts on the rear.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:30 AM   #18739
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The 46mm shafts will be just fine, it's what I have been using lately with the same arm mounts
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Old 06-30-2007, 06:22 AM   #18740
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Short arm is only short for about 0.8mm. So unless your 46mm shaft is dangerly close to outdrive, I don't think you need to use 42mm.

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Old 06-30-2007, 07:57 AM   #18741
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Short arm is only short for about 0.8mm. So unless your 46mm shaft is dangerly close to outdrive, I don't think you need to use 42mm.
If they are only shorter by this small amount, do they really make much of a difference?
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what exactly do the short arms do? i mean how does it change the handling characteristics? and do you guys use londer mounts. thanx i want to try them.
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If they are only shorter by this small amount, do they really make much of a difference?
0.8mm on one side = 1.6mm on trackwidth. Plus, it change almost every characterastic of suspension.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:20 AM   #18744
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what exactly do the short arms do? i mean how does it change the handling characteristics? and do you guys use londer mounts. thanx i want to try them.
longer arm=The long arm setting offers the most
consistent setup for most tracks


Short front arm length will give the car more steering with less stability

rear short arm will give the car more steering by letting the car roll more, which could be advantageous on small tight technical
tracks.
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:45 PM   #18745
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what exactly do the short arms do? i mean how does it change the handling characteristics? and do you guys use londer mounts. thanx i want to try them.
I've run short arms at both ends and love it. I look at it from a reliability point of view - they don't break as easily as the long arms.
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Old 07-01-2007, 11:14 AM   #18746
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what kind of pitch is orginal , and im gonna use a 4.5 novak brushless system an d which spur and pinion should i use
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longer arm=The long arm setting offers the most
consistent setup for most tracks


Short front arm length will give the car more steering with less stability

rear short arm will give the car more steering by letting the car roll more, which could be advantageous on small tight technical
tracks.
I believe having short arms in the rear doesn't give the car more steering. Your shortening the camber link, which makes the rear of the car roll less, thus giving more traction to the rear of the car.
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I believe having short arms in the rear doesn't give the car more steering. Your shortening the camber link, which makes the rear of the car roll less, thus giving more traction to the rear of the car.
i guess the lap counting computer lied to me then
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Gonna have to go with Marcos on this one.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:20 AM   #18750
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As for my experience, short arm give a quicker response on everything. Traction-wise they are about the same if roll-center stuff are correct, acturally I think short arm generally give less traction than long arm.

IMO, for small, good traction track, short arm is the way. Asphalt, large smooth track, for long arm.

And indeed, short arm seems can take more impact compared with long arm.
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