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Old 05-13-2007, 03:38 AM   #18331
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Thanks, but I tried there first - out of stock.
oh, sorry to hear that i think your best option is to e-mail rc-champ btw have you tried Precision RC
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:57 AM   #18332
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hey guys I just raced my 415mr with rubber tires on indoor asphart this weekend, and I use that josch guy setup from tamyia websight.
and well my car turn well for the frist min. then it started to push and pushed
i was using 32R's so dose anyone else have an better set up for this car?
or any idea to help with the push afther the frist min?
oh ya i was using the front swaybars only to make the car less jerky.
I had a quick look at that setup, there are two things I'd advise you to change:

- On the steering knuckles use the other hole for the steering turnbuckles, as with the hole up front you will have a lot of ackermann, which will wear yor front tyres a lot, and get them to overheat. Don't forget to re-set your EPA after doing that.

- Use harder springs ! I don't know how Trf drivers can drive the cars with yellow springs and roll bars, for me it never worked. i always use harder springs, either tamiya blue/white or hpi blue/white and without roll bars. I find the car is more consistent and giving better lap times. Alternatively you could try any springs in the 15 - 17 lbs range if you don't have those mentionned.
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Old 05-13-2007, 06:23 AM   #18333
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Rebuilding my msx now, the rear uprights look shot, the bearing just binds in there, tried different uprights (from a scrapped MLP car which was essentially a TRF rip off) and fixed that, is it common for that to happen?

Any idea how the Jet Racing ones at precision rc are? Seem to be using them a bit more now, rcmushroom won't ship to my PO Box, and champ just seems to take way too long to reply to a query! Precision RC so far have been good!
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:58 AM   #18334
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I've got a set of jet racing HPi font hubs. The bearings are really really tight in them, got to put a soldering iron on them to heat them up to take the bearings out...
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Old 05-13-2007, 08:22 AM   #18335
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Ordered some 51105 (Composite rear hubs) they seem to have more give and I don't really see how they'd adversely affect performance (well less bling I spose!)
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They give 1° outboard toe, and are much less stiff than the aluminium ones. Play in the wheel axles is big too, I don't recommend them. You could try using the HPi rear hubs, they are quite similar to the H0 hubs, but plastic. you'll need to re-drill them to 2.6mm and to get bearings and wheel axles for them too. I used them for some time now and no problem at all, went back to tamiya ones as weight is an issue with 5-cell mod, and overall the tamiya setup is slightly lighter.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:38 AM   #18337
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hey guys I just raced my 415mr with rubber tires on indoor asphart this weekend, and I use that josch guy setup from tamyia websight.
and well my car turn well for the frist min. then it started to push and pushed
i was using 32R's so dose anyone else have an better set up for this car?
or any idea to help with the push afther the frist min?
oh ya i was using the front swaybars only to make the car less jerky.
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if you've copied Josh's setup exactly (this one ), you'll have 4degrees of rear toe-in... I think thats a mistake on the sheet, you should never need more than 3. This would be part of the problem.
Try using XB/D if you are using a mod, or XA/D for stock/19t to begin with.

Also, try moving the front shocks to postion 3 on the arm, and use the MRE standard wheelbase settings (3.5mm behind front arm, 1.5mm in front of rear arm). This should help combat any push you have.
I assume you also mean you are using the stiff front roll bar? this won't help matters. Try dropping to the yellow bar, and to reduce the twitchyness, move the steering links to hole 2 on the hubs.

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Old 05-13-2007, 02:27 PM   #18338
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thanks guys I'll well try that, that was my frist time with rubber tires
man carpet is soo much easyer for me
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What is the part number for the front sway bar set for the 415MSXX?

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Old 05-14-2007, 08:19 AM   #18340
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Hi there!!

Quick question: on the MSXX, the sway bars holders (that black plastic pieces that hold the bars on the bulkheads) don't have any setscrews thus the bar moves a lot in there, not "engaging" much unless after 3 o 4 mm of compression... have any of you put setscrews on them?? Is there an special part for it??

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on the MRE there are 4 collars that hold the sway bar in place.

If you dont have them in the MSXX you can use airplane style collars to hold the sway bars in place.


You place: Collar - Plastic - Collar Collar - plastic - collar

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Old 05-14-2007, 08:36 AM   #18342
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Sway....Bars?
They still use those?

Never used a pair in my life!
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on the MRE there are 4 collars that hold the sway bar in place.

If you dont have them in the MSXX you can use airplane style collars to hold the sway bars in place.


You place: Collar - Plastic - Collar Collar - plastic - collar

hope this helps

yeah, I use plastic, collar, collar, plastic... nevertheless, there is still play on the sway bar (between the plastic and the bulkhead, in that axis)... on the TA05 you have the collars (if you get the aluminium mount), but at the same time there are also setscrew to compensate when you use a thin bar... thus you can limit the amount of free play... I still haven't run the MSXX, as I've been traveling around working for a while, but when I mounted it last week I noticed that play....

anyway, normally use a sway bar at the front, not at the back, on asphalt with rubber... as Iīm planning to try foam asphalt, don't know how the car will react, but perhaps i will need the back one as well....

thanks,
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nexxus: yeah, perhaps i should just take them off and try... anyway, I need to shave some weight....
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I dont use the sway bars as well so I dont remember if there is any place to drill a hole for a 3mm set screw. you may do that..


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Sway bar mounts..
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