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Old 05-09-2007, 08:54 PM   #18271
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Hello Folks.

I would like to know what the difference is between the 415MSXX and the original 415MSX. Like chasiss, suspension, bulkhead's etc. Cause i'm thinking of buying the 415MSXX

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Old 05-09-2007, 09:01 PM   #18272
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Hello Folks.

I would like to know what the difference is between the 415MSXX and the original 415MSX. Like chasiss, suspension, bulkhead's etc. Cause i'm thinking of buying the 415MSXX

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This question has been asked many times

TRF415MSXX has 2.0mm lower deck, compared to 2.5mm of MSX. MSXX has a newly shaped upper deck, new belts, wide pitch pulleys, air duct, new bumper. Everything else is pretty much the same.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:39 PM   #18273
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This question has been asked many times

TRF415MSXX has 2.0mm lower deck, compared to 2.5mm of MSX. MSXX has a newly shaped upper deck, new belts, wide pitch pulleys, air duct, new bumper. Everything else is pretty much the same.
And last but not least:

The newer style steering.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:51 PM   #18274
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Different Centre Pully and Pully cover, also uses the nex Hex head ball connectors not the older style that used a 5.5mm nut wrench to tighten.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:58 PM   #18275
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416?

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we have to wait until the Shizuoka hobby show. they always unveil a lot of stuff at that show!
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Old 05-10-2007, 04:09 AM   #18277
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we have to wait until the Shizuoka hobby show. they always unveil a lot of stuff at that show!
My bet... wait for the Reedy Race, seem to have been a favourite event to debut a new car there (415, MSX, and MRE all were first run there).
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Nice one Ed. So did you run the front end narrower in that case or did you shim it back out? And I'm guessing you used 42mm drive shafts? Dropped a one-way back into my MRE converted MSX. See how it goes tomorrow night...
Nope, everything standard MRE in that respect. 0.5mm shims on the axles, and 46mm driveshafts.
Had no issues at all.. but then again, I didn't check :P Also used an original 415 centre oneway setup, don't have the parts from the MSXX yet.

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I ran an MSXX spec One Way on the weekend (well MSXX shaft and standard holders, TA05 one way pulley) all went well, not shimmed right though, didn't have enough shimmy thingys!
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Nope, everything standard MRE in that respect. 0.5mm shims on the axles, and 46mm driveshafts.
Had no issues at all.. but then again, I didn't check :P Also used an original 415 centre oneway setup, don't have the parts from the MSXX yet.

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I might have to give that a try then. Going back to a front one-way made a world of difference the other night... The car turned in well and and the short arms maintained the line through the rest of the turn. I added some anti-squat at the rear (0.5mm shim under the front block in the rear enf) and this gave me even more steering. Much more like it!
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Old 05-10-2007, 09:40 AM   #18282
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there goes TRF_Racer posting his secret ninja pictures again.

tryhard... you seem to be the most experienced with the 415 here.... have you experimented with adding a shim to the front blocks? (either the front rear, or the front front).

curious to see what effects it had in your set up.
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Shim under the front = Kick-up + increased castor.
I did some measuring, and to get as near as dammit 1 increase in castor, you need 0.8mm of shims under the block. Increasing the kick up helps the car deal with bumps, and gives a bit more mid-corner speed, but takes away some intial

Shim under the rear = Anti-dive + reduced castor
Helps to transfer weight to the front of the car. Also the reduced castor helps increase initial turn-in, at the expense of a little mid corner.

I found anti dive good on a track which had quite a few tight hairpins, as it helped get the nose tucked in quickly. Also useful when running a spool, helps counteract the lose of initial steering inherent when running one.

TBH though, I haven't played with this option much since getting the MRE... although I might start to try some kick-up, been looking for a little more mid-corner recently.

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Has anyone got a pic of the MSXX stick pack lower deck? #49426. I want to see if it will allow me to use lipo packs on the mre without grinding the aluminum.
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Shim under the front = Kick-up + increased castor.
I did some measuring, and to get as near as dammit 1 increase in castor, you need 0.8mm of shims under the block. Increasing the kick up helps the car deal with bumps, and gives a bit more mid-corner speed, but takes away some intial

Shim under the rear = Anti-dive + reduced castor
Helps to transfer weight to the front of the car. Also the reduced castor helps increase initial turn-in, at the expense of a little mid corner.

I found anti dive good on a track which had quite a few tight hairpins, as it helped get the nose tucked in quickly. Also useful when running a spool, helps increase counteract the lose of initial steering inherent when running one.

TBH though, I haven't played with this option much since getting the MRE... although I might start to try some kick-up, been looking for a little more mid-corner recently.

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thanks ed... ive havent had a chance to play around with it TBH. but i will on saturday. my car is pretty stuck for initial steering, but i dont want to sacrifice rear traction.

worse comes to worse.. ill just JAM on the brakes if i need to dive into a corner.

ill try those things this weekend tho and let you know what i find.
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