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Old 01-25-2007, 02:40 PM   #17251
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oh just one more thing if she sees that on here im done for !!!!!!!
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Old 01-25-2007, 02:47 PM   #17252
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Anyone tried this shafts?, Any comments?, Looks good!

ive seen those too. and was wondering if they fit the mre?? and are they up to the job?

ive just watched that rc-racing with the world champion comp

to say that marc rheinhard only does racing as a hobbie hes pretty good no?
most of the other guys drive for a living
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:38 PM   #17253
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Hi Tryhard / Anyone here,

Between the MSXX and the TB Evo5, which one would you choose as a 'second' to the MRE, primary usage Stock Class. {Already in action are my MRE for Brushless & Mods, TA05 multipurpose}
Thanks in advance. Cheers.
well.... I haven;t really done a back to back with the MRE and Evo yet... and I'll admit it has been a bit of struggle to get a good setup on the evo (not helped by the appaling luck I seem to be having at the moment, although some is self inflicted...) But it's getting there.... Still I always like to be a little different

Probably doesn't help answer your question though..
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:49 PM   #17254
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HELP NEEDED

Hey guy's I've been trying hard... (Pardon the pun tryhard) to get a good carpet/rubber tire set up for my MRE.

The rear end of the car keeps kicking out - on power out of the corner.

I'm running New CS27's. 33# front spring/ 14# rear, 50wt front oil & 30wt rear.

Any assistance or setup's would be appreciated.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:21 PM   #17255
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i havent even got the car yet but thought id have a go lol
adjust throttle curve on transmitter ?
tighten front diff slightly? if not running a diff oh well!
have you worked on the droop settings?

not sure about this answer but the way i see it is that the thicker oil in the front shocks is going to slow down the transfer of weight back to the rear of the car.. slightly ......?? .....try having the same 30wt oil up front too.

in no words do i claim to be right im just putting some ideas forward

does none of the tamiya drivers come on here to help with these matters?

and maybe you should put your current set up down on here.
then the more experienced guys on here could see more of the picture.

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:04 PM   #17256
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If you do a search here on this thread. Type in msxx and you will see about 25 different post's on the difference between the 2
Here is a couple of things that are different.
MRE Titanium screws/Spool/ fixed centre
MSXX Steel screws/air scoop( very cool) one way centre and one way front
And more things.
I would go the MRE because of the collectable value and by the air scoop later.
Just an idea, as it seem's everyone think's this is the best thing to do.
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Thanks .... I'll search this thread then..
Thanks for the info, mate ...

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:58 PM   #17257
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tryhard

my first race is Saturday with my msx mre 19turn carpet rubber Tamiya
Type A tyres is the spec tyre.

do you have any set up and driving advice or tips?

this is my third race on carpet ever with rubber the first two were stock and this one is 19turn.

also this is the list of parts i have got in the last two weeks for spares

what else shuld i get


TAM51213 Tamiya TA05 Center Pulley (16T)
PRCS415MS Mechanica Bearings TRF415MS/MSX/MRE Bearing Set
TAM53869 Tamiya 5mm Aluminum Short Ball Nut (Blue / 10pcs)
TAM53899 Tamiya Reversible Light Weight Suspension Set for TA04/5, TRF415 & TB02
TAM53876 Tamiya Aluminum Damper Retainer (1mm Down Type)
PRC415JDFD36 Precision RC TRF415 Front Ball Diff Set w/ 36T Pulley
TAM53842 Tamiya TA05 Front and Rear Stabilizer Set
TAM53439 Tamiya Anti-Wear Grease (3g)
TAM53890 Tamiya Swing Shaft Protector (4 pcs) for TRF415MSX
TAM53642 Tamiya 5mm Aluminum Ball Connector (Blue)
TAM53640 Tamiya 5mm Aluminum Ball Nut (Blue)
TAM53573 Tamiya TRF Damper Piston (3-Hole / 4 pcs) for TRF Shock Set 53571
TAM53601 Tamiya Low Friction 5mm Adjuster (8 pcs)
TAM53724 Tamiya 46mm Light Weight Swing Shaft
TAM53933 Tamiya Alum. Suspension Mount Spacers 1.0mm (4pcs)
TAM53932 Tamiya Alum. Suspension Mount Spacers 0.5mm (4pcs)
TAM51103 Tamiya Front Upright for TRF415MS/TB EVO IV
TAM5014AO Tamiya AO Series Ball Diff Screw and Nut
TAM53574 Tamiya TRF Damper Rod Guide&O-Ring (4 Sets)
TAM51068 Tamiya Suspension Mount D for TRF415
TAM53936 Tamiya Wide Pitch One Way Pulley (36T Size) for TA05
TAM53586 Tamiya 4mm Shim Set (3 Types / 10pcs Each)
TAM53935 Tamiya Wide Pitch Ball Diff Pulley (36T Size) for TA05
TAM53588 Tamiya 10mm Shim Set (3 Types / 10pcs Each)
TAM53602 Tamiya Turnbuckle Wrench
TAM51065 Tamiya Suspension Mount A for TRF415

also parts I'm getting at the track are
2 pair of 4 degree castor blocks
3 pair front hubs
1 set of arms
1 suspension block 1c

thanks in advance

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Old 01-26-2007, 12:10 AM   #17258
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HELP NEEDED

Hey guy's I've been trying hard... (Pardon the pun tryhard) to get a good carpet/rubber tire set up for my MRE.

The rear end of the car keeps kicking out - on power out of the corner.

I'm running New CS27's. 33# front spring/ 14# rear, 50wt front oil & 30wt rear.

Any assistance or setup's would be appreciated.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!

You could try lengthening the rear wheelbase to help with the over steer problem

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Old 01-26-2007, 01:19 AM   #17259
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HELP NEEDED

Hey guy's I've been trying hard... (Pardon the pun tryhard) to get a good carpet/rubber tire set up for my MRE.

The rear end of the car keeps kicking out - on power out of the corner.

I'm running New CS27's. 33# front spring/ 14# rear, 50wt front oil & 30wt rear.

Any assistance or setup's would be appreciated.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
The car is not tranfering enough weight to the rear tires when you are on power so there are several adjustments you can use to correct this problem. That's the beauty of the MRE, lots of options to fix this problem.
Softer springs in the rear, lay down the rear shocks, stiffen the front shocks, stand up the front shocks.
Increase rear toe, increase camber in the rear
increase the droop in the front, decrease the droop in the rear. Remove shims under the blocks if you have any in the rear.
The options go on and on. I haven't even touched on tires an inserts.
The trick is to make one change at a time!
Just my 2$
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:40 AM   #17260
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HELP NEEDED

Hey guy's I've been trying hard... (Pardon the pun tryhard) to get a good carpet/rubber tire set up for my MRE.

The rear end of the car keeps kicking out - on power out of the corner.

I'm running New CS27's. 33# front spring/ 14# rear, 50wt front oil & 30wt rear.

Any assistance or setup's would be appreciated.

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Your front springs are way to hard compared to the rear springs!!
I am sure your car dump's the rear end inn the midle of the corner and then you loose traction....

Try soften your front end, normally we run the Blue Tamiya springs in the rear and the White ones up front.
Remember to drive smooth and keep the car rolling in the turns to get the corner speed up!

Good Luck mate,

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Old 01-26-2007, 06:51 AM   #17261
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what are the advantages/disadvantages between the 415MSX and the MRE/MSXX?
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:13 AM   #17262
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The advantages from the MRE over the MSX is: the center pulley system. Instead of adjusting 3 set screws, Tamiya came up with a single unit where the center pullies and the spur gear are one unit now. It never has to be adjusted. Real nice. The steering rack is different. Much better and has more steering than the previous rack. The set-up out of the box with MRE is much better than MSX. The way it's shimmed with camber links, wheelbase and toe blocks should get you very close to "dialed" on any ashpalt track out there.

The one flaw with MRE, I believe is the top deck. Get's "tweaked" very easily if you hit a board or something. You have to loosen the top screws and re-adjust the car on tweak station after every run or so. Not that big of a deal, kinda gets you in a good habit anyways lol... I'm not sure if Tamiya adressed this with the MSXX. The top deck needs to be held down with a couple more screws to make it more stable and less flimsy.

Other than that, the MRE is easily one of the best sedans on the market for ashpalt or carpet.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:17 AM   #17263
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:21 AM   #17264
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Thanks J. Stark. so i should get myself a MRE or MSXX over the standard MSX. thanks
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:51 AM   #17265
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Thanks J. Stark. so i should get myself a MRE or MSXX over the standard MSX. thanks
TRF415MSX Marc Rheinard Edition is discontinued now, wait for the MSXX next month.
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