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Old 01-14-2007, 04:07 PM   #17041
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Hi Troy
The Motor mount side looks the same butr the top Cradle is different, So I think I will have to get scott the top bracket, bearing cradles and may be bearings as well.
If you can check and send me a total this would be great i will give him the total to pay pal me.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:24 PM   #17042
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The centre shaft will work fine with the plastic MSX bearing holders and top brace. you just need to turn them round, thats all (they hold the bearings captive, rather than relying on the c-clip and end stop on the MSX layshaft).

The alloy braces are simply to allow you to raise the centre shafts to fit bigger spurs on the car, they aren't specifically needed to run the MRE centre unit.

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Old 01-14-2007, 05:57 PM   #17043
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The problem with the bearings used to be with the plastic rear hubs, as they allowed the bearings to move too much. As the MRE comes with the alloy hubs (which support the bearing better), and bearing spacers, this problem is pretty much gone now. I personally only use steel bearings...cheaper to replace, and still very free with the correct treatment.

Most people use the HPI hubs to run foams (tyres wider than 24mm don't fit the lwt suspension hubs without rubbing), although I do know some people who use them to gain steering (although not required with the new steering system).

The MRE was a limited edition kit...the MSXX will effectively be the production version, minus the ti screw, spool (it comes with dual-one ways), and a few other bits. It does come with the new steering (a big improvement), a thinner lower deck (2mm), and the alu motor cooling duct.

Either way (MRE or MSXX, when it arrives) you will be getting a very good car.

Any more questions, ask away

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When you mean dual-one-way for the MSXX, I take it to be Front and Centre one-way?
Also do you know whether the steel screws are hex or philips? And anyone know if Ti screws set will be available?
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Old 01-14-2007, 06:00 PM   #17044
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yes front and center oneways and by the looks of the picture they will be hex... im just waiting for the price
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Old 01-14-2007, 08:26 PM   #17045
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Thanks Ed
Scotty will be happy,If he was to get the other stuff(top brace, bearing holders) are the bearings the same or different?

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Old 01-14-2007, 10:05 PM   #17046
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Tryhard and everyone, I just came back form track. I use stiffer spring on front and my car is not break lose in corner anymore. And I feel the over all steering is less. especially the getting out of concer. So i have make less drop on front and it helped. Also, I found why my car is lose when getting out of large sweeper. It is because my car is not balance. I use brushless and lip. If I try to use IB4200 then this problem sloved. Thank you for your time on writing so long for me!

I feel my car is very good. Easy to drive and make a faster turn now.
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Want to know what is the part number for the 415 MRE fornt spindle or called hub?
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Old 01-14-2007, 10:07 PM   #17048
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Scotty will be happy,If he was to get the other stuff(top brace, bearing holders) are the bearings the same or different?

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Bearings are the same.
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Old 01-14-2007, 10:20 PM   #17049
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Want to know what is the part number for the 415 MRE fornt spindle or called hub?
Here is the instruction book look and tell us, please.

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/rc/rcman...4trf415msx.pdf
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:01 AM   #17050
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Thank's Ed and troy for you help there,
Also troy I have sent you a email regarding stuff for scott.
Also from what I can see, guy's that own a MSX can use a MRE Tamiya oneway with the TA 05 wide pitch one way pulleys at the front and the same is with the MRE spool so you do not have to modify the pulley or car to fit these items.
can you guy's tell me if I am correct with the above assumption's.

So
1/ MRE one way with TA05 wide pitch pulley good fit on MSX.
2/ MRE spool with TA05 wide pitch good fit on MSX.
3/ Standard MSX diff fine with MSX using TA05 wide pitch pulley.
Can someone please tell me Is this correct
Can anyone also tell me is the MRE steering better than the MSX steering.

Man I have a lot of question's

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Old 01-15-2007, 07:31 AM   #17051
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Hi guys,
I need to ask this silly question and was hoping for someone here to post a good reply please.

The following is my current setup and after numerous runs since maiden, I have found that I need to have seriously more off-power steering (for that deeper attack into an apex) and more on-power steering (for more aggressive throttle out from corners).
Whenever I used Stock motors, there's no problem, everything is fantastic.
But when I switch to the BL Novak3.5r, I face firstly understeer, hugs corner, then power understeer. I want my MRE to hug the apex and be able to power out without understeering out. On some sweepers, cannot even hold half throttle.

I have the following setup at present time and needs improvements, greatly appreciate assistance:
Mazda6 body; Novak 3.5r; Steering rod attached to forward hole on steering knuckles; 3mm shims added to steering linkage to bring forward the ball nuts where the steering rod cups fits ; Caster 4`;

Front shocks: 2-hole pistons, 50wt oil, Blue springs, ride height 5mm;
Mid rollbars (standard MRE); Sus blocks 1B-1A Bridge (standard MRE); Droop 5 (measured using the standard droop gauge from bottom of chassis);

Rear shocks: 2-hole pistons, 40wt oil, Blue springs, ride height 5.5mm;
Soft rollbars (standard MRE); Sus blocks 1XB-1C (with positive Anti-squat 0.5mm added); Droop 6;

I have tried adding Kick-up 0.5mm onto the fronts, but this resulted in even more initial understeer, but on-power steering noticeably improved. But I can't live with the massive understeer off-power.

Aim: I want to carry more speed at corners.

Should I do the following:
a) softer shock oils front to say 40wt?
b) add Negative Kick-up instead of positive (but will I loose that on-power steering effect ?)

Thanks in advance guys,
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:20 AM   #17052
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Thank's Ed and troy for you help there,
Also troy I have sent you a email regarding stuff for scott.
Also from what I can see, guy's that own a MSX can use a MRE Tamiya oneway with the TA 05 wide pitch one way pulleys at the front and the same is with the MRE spool so you do not have to modify the pulley or car to fit these items.
can you guy's tell me if I am correct with the above assumption's.

So
1/ MRE one way with TA05 wide pitch pulley good fit on MSX.
2/ MRE spool with TA05 wide pitch good fit on MSX.
3/ Standard MSX diff fine with MSX using TA05 wide pitch pulley.
Can someone please tell me Is this correct
Can anyone also tell me is the MRE steering better than the MSX steering.

Man I have a lot of question's

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That is correct, when switching to the TA05 wide pitch pulleys the only thing you have to modify is the original 415 oneway, or the pulley to get it to fit. You have to take off about 1mm off either the pulley, oneway, or the bearing housings.

Not sure about the steering, maybe someone who's driven both can tell.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:52 PM   #17053
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Does anyone know what Tamiya shock oil is 30w? 35W? Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:29 PM   #17054
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Thank's Tony,
I put in my MSX about a month ago a Standard Tamiya oneway with the TA05 pulley and it was tight as buggery, I kept pulling it apart and putting it back together thinking I have done something wrong. So it is great to know I am not such a twit of a mechanic
Also last night I was just about to go to bed and I remembered reading something about diff's on Tryhard's website, I went there and found how to modify the pulley. So between you 2 Racing guru's Again help is there when needed. If you would ever like a free golf lesson and you are in OZ look me up
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That is correct, when switching to the TA05 wide pitch pulleys the only thing you have to modify is the original 415 oneway, or the pulley to get it to fit. You have to take off about 1mm off either the pulley, oneway, or the bearing housings.

Not sure about the steering, maybe someone who's driven both can tell.
reguarding the steering,,,I have driven both and that was my issue with the msx,,,had to do all kinds of weird set up stuff to get it to turn,,in addition I noticed that the carbon fiber steering wrack gets a lot of wiggle to it ,,,,,the Mre steering is smooth and quick and still to this day as tight as when I built the car,,,,
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