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Old 10-24-2006, 09:42 AM   #16186
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Where abouts is the car pushing. Entering the corner, mid corner, exit? What's the rest of your set-up and what surface do you race on?

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Old 10-24-2006, 10:01 AM   #16187
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Push at entering concer. I run at out door, med to high traction.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:58 AM   #16188
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Iox as I see it I would add rear droop it is not allowing the car to transfer the weight to the nose on corner entry. I usually run about 2mm droop. If you are still running kit setting on the MRE then that is also prolly alot of the issue. I reverted my car to a mostly MSX R2 setup and the car came alive. I like the balance to the front of the car and that gave me back the side to side transition along with the entry steering. I also went back to a 1-way, the kit settings are really suited to long open flowing high speed tracks.
Our local track is a tighter indoor asphalt with huge grip so your settings may vary from there. I also went back to the lower inner camber link on the front the upper hole is just too numb.

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Old 10-24-2006, 12:15 PM   #16189
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can someone please tell me what the main differences between the Refine 2 kit and the MRE are??
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:21 PM   #16190
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Can someone please tell me what the centre post does on the MSX. I have recently upgraded my MS to an MSX with part 49378 and someone a few pages back said the only difference between the upgrade MSX and the Kit MSX is a centre post?
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:31 PM   #16191
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Just stiffens the car up a little.

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Old 10-24-2006, 04:39 PM   #16192
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I race on outdoor asphault so having flex in the car is actually a benefit. I don't think I will need a centre post then!
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Do you have any idea how to mount Orion 4800 LIPO pack to MRE or MSX?
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Difuser: I'm using 3mm rear drop. I think there is not much different on real performance for 3mm and 2mm. Also, if I use 2mm rear drop the spring will be compressd at any time. My 3mm setting is suit for my 6mm rear ride height.

Charles: yes, That's why I'm going to use AE red spring next time which is harder then tamiya white.

BTW, my track is small tight track. Fast reaction is needed.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:47 PM   #16195
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hey guys im about to replace my original 415 belts "color black".. not the ms and msx version just the 1st version...

can i replace it with the low friction belts "color white"??

here is my old belts:
RC TRF415 Front Belt - 3.0mm (Item #51062)
RC TRF415 Rear Belt - 3.0mm (Item #51063)


and i wanna put these low friction belts. see pix and part numbers:

RC TRF415 Low Friction Belt - Rear (Item #53707)
RC TRF415 Low Friction Belt - Front (Item #53706)

can i replace my old one and put the yellow one without any problems?? do the white belts are also 3.0mm??

please help me ASAP thanks..
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:46 PM   #16196
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hey guys im about to replace my original 415 belts "color black".. not the ms and msx version just the 1st version...

can i replace it with the low friction belts "color white"??

here is my old belts:
RC TRF415 Front Belt - 3.0mm (Item #51062)
RC TRF415 Rear Belt - 3.0mm (Item #51063)


and i wanna put these low friction belts. see pix and part numbers:

RC TRF415 Low Friction Belt - Rear (Item #53707)
RC TRF415 Low Friction Belt - Front (Item #53706)

can i replace my old one and put the yellow one without any problems?? do the white belts are also 3.0mm??

please help me ASAP thanks..
The belts are direct fit for the 415, 415MS & 415MSX kits.
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Old 10-24-2006, 10:33 PM   #16197
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Droop is regardless of ride height it is the limiting of down travel of the arm. I can have 2mm droop at 12mm of ride height. and yes 1mm of droop can make a very large change in dynamics of the car. At our track some of our locals can be off by the 1mm and it takes a car that is loose in transition to a car that is very"buttoned down". At 3mm currently I would tell you to tighten it up some at our track.

As for other solutions to the car look at wheelbase and the rest. Again the setup that is on the MRE is a highspeed track based set-up if you are fighting it on a tigh technical tack then I would revert to the Refine setup the narrower hinge pins helps the car transition quicker. The arm sweep in the front also helps initiate turn-in also. If you look at the build manual you can find the r2 baseline.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:12 AM   #16198
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Do you have any idea how to mount Orion 4800 LIPO pack to MRE or MSX?

You could grind off the little bit at the rear bulkhead. Or you could get the stick pack conversion for the MSX, which is going to cost. Or you could just stick it in and with lots of glass tape, it will hopefully stay in the car in a collison.

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Old 10-25-2006, 01:29 AM   #16199
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As for other solutions to the car look at wheelbase and the rest. Again the setup that is on the MRE is a highspeed track based set-up if you are fighting it on a tigh technical tack then I would revert to the Refine setup the narrower hinge pins helps the car transition quicker. The arm sweep in the front also helps initiate turn-in also. If you look at the build manual you can find the r2 baseline.

No wonder I simply love the stock setup for my track (A 1/8 high speed track) ! Tonnes of steering!
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Can someone please tell me what the centre post does on the MSX. I have recently upgraded my MS to an MSX with part 49378 and someone a few pages back said the only difference between the upgrade MSX and the Kit MSX is a centre post?
It does stiffen up the car a little bit but the main reason for tamiya adding it was to save the rearbulkheads in case of a crash. Without it the bulkheads can bend.
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