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Old 03-29-2004, 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by Cobra81li200
you should try to get Kawada diff outdrives. They're a perfect fit on Tamiya diff gears and plates. If you can make 10mm diameter spacers to prevent the play (as they're made for a car that's only 15mm wide on the bulkheads) they'll be perfect.
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Old 03-29-2004, 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Pyramid
Great tip
Anyone know where you can get some Kawada out drives (prefer the UK)??

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Old 03-29-2004, 07:33 AM
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indeed, but you'll have to use longer dogbones, as the stock ones are too short with these outdrives. I suggest trying the MIP CVDs from the Assassin
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Old 03-29-2004, 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Hebiki
i think a tighter belt has more rip out of a corner? am i right? i dont remember what the earlier post stated.
Tighter belt will tend to have drag brake feel (because it is tighter) off throttle so that you could take corner faster.

Sorry, I'm not often been here lately.. but where do you guys have that ide of clipped belt? what cause the problem so that you try clipping the belt?

Also, in case have not been mention, do not use R side (see setting sheet) on front knucle (C1/C2) as you wont get full steering throw on TRF415. It's a whole different story with 414.
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Old 03-29-2004, 03:11 PM
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Clipped belts (or clipping every other tooth off) is a trick that alot of the Losi guys are doin in Stock. It helps make things smoother and more efficient, less drag.. blah blah blah....so they say. So since some of us have a couple spare belts laying around... it's something to try out. I wouldn't recommend it for mod though. I guess it's just part of the hobby of trying out different things. Modify this... modify that. Stuff like that.

As for belt tightening, I decided not to go past 3 clicks for the rear. I found that my diff had loosened a tad causing it to slip too much. So I'm hopping thats where I lost my acceleration off the line. We'll see later on this week or this weekend.
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Old 03-29-2004, 03:25 PM
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I think the reason clipping the belt works in the losi is because of the path of the belt. In the losi the belt tensioner pulls the belt back on itself and so the drive train is not as free as it would be if the belt was in line.

The 415, MY02, MI2 style of cars have the belts in line and would have less friction because of this, I think you could get the same effect by adjusting the tension on the belts.

From memory also the Losi belts tend to be much stiffer then the others which would also affect how well they work. I don't know if this is true of the new black belt.

just my 2c
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Old 03-29-2004, 03:43 PM
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Belt clipping is used by Losi team drivers because they're using a different internal ratio that needs cutting every other tooth in order not to catch. It's been take by other drivers because they thought it was to have afreer drive train.

I woulnd't clip them on any car.

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Old 03-29-2004, 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cobra81li200
Belt clipping is used by Losi team drivers because they're using a different internal ratio that needs cutting every other tooth in order not to catch. It's been take by other drivers because they thought it was to have afreer drive train.

I woulnd't clip them on any car.

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half of the 415 guys already clipped their belts.. including me thats $14 down the drain if it doesnt work as planned.
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:33 PM
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building mine now... bout 1/2 way. alreadt wish i had ordered ti screw kit!!! ah well, that'll give me a good reason for teardown/ inspecting.
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:44 AM
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i'm building my 415... What gearing should i use for a Monster stock and Reedy quad magnet 19T ? i'll be using 48pitch gears...
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Old 03-30-2004, 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by over gear
i'm building my 415... What gearing should i use for a Monster stock and Reedy quad magnet 19T ? i'll be using 48pitch gears...
I also run my 415 in SoCal. The FDR is for the 415 should be no different than the other chassis. Depends on the layout I'd say between high 6 to high 7 is what I's use for Monster Stock. Not sure about 19T as I don't run it.
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Old 03-30-2004, 04:22 AM
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Hey,

I'll be running a 415 as of next week hopefully. Can't wait.

Any hints and tips etc for building the car???

Also can someone tell me what size hex wrenches and nut drivers this kit uses? Just need to know what to order.

Thanks,
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Old 03-30-2004, 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Glue-Stick
Hey,

I'll be running a 415 as of next week hopefully. Can't wait.

Any hints and tips etc for building the car???

Also can someone tell me what size hex wrenches and nut drivers this kit uses? Just need to know what to order.

Thanks,
You need 2mm and 1.5mm hex wrench as well as 5.5mm and 7mm nut driver.
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Old 03-30-2004, 09:58 AM
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Jeff, when are you going to be back?
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Originally posted by Neil Rabara
Jeff, when are you going to be back?
Hey Neil, I won't be back till the end of April. Boy I miss racing at SoCal.
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