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Old 01-19-2009, 10:59 AM   #1
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My Local track is going to have a VTA class this year(yeay!!!).. Here is my order.. what do ya'll think?

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HPI 68 Camaro Body/Hemi - not sure yet.
The correct tires/wheels as per the VTA rules

Now the question:

I am not sure what to run in terms of motor. I have a 3800 7.4 2S 1P Team Orion Lipo battery...so I can run the 21.5 motor(Novak Only??)
While I understand that in this class it is more about tuning and driving ability, is the 17.5 and 4 Cell faster/quicker than 21.5/Lipo combo?

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Hello,
Here is the link to the Rule Book
Link: http://www.usvintagetransam.com/

Also check out the VTA setup ?'s Thread
I bumped it for the newer T/A guys'
I hope this helps you
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Definitely go 21.5 lipo. The fastest is actually the 27t brushed if you're willing to do the upkeep. The 17.5 is probably the slowest option.

I also ran the TC5R for VTA and here are a couple tips I have for you.

1. Make sure the rear belt is loser than the book says, with these low rpm motors any drag is killer.

2. Run the Camaro, it fits better and sadly, has the best aerodynamics.

3. Run a one-way in front. I started with the spool and dropped my laptimes by 1/2 a second with a one-way.

Hope this helps.
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My Local track is going to have a VTA class this year(yeay!!!).. Here is my order.. what do ya'll think?

Team Associated TC5R
HPI 68 Camaro Body/Hemi - not sure yet.
The correct tires/wheels as per the VTA rules

Now the question:

I am not sure what to run in terms of motor. I have a 3800 7.4 2S 1P Team Orion Lipo battery...so I can run the 21.5 motor(Novak Only??)
While I understand that in this class it is more about tuning and driving ability, is the 17.5 and 4 Cell faster/quicker than 21.5/Lipo combo?

Thanks,

Mike
Yes it is, but it is not legal for the Vintage races. At my track, 21.5 and either 4-cell NiMH or 2S LiPo up to 5000 Mah 35C is allowed. We have a 17.5 Foam Sedan class, and a 13.5 Rubber Sedan class as well. But as far as I have understood the rules and regulations to race in Trans-Am you will need ot use a 21.5 motor.

As far as the body, I guess it depends on your driving style. I use the Cuda body myself.

The Trans Am tires and inserts STINK!! You have to break them in. You can use compounds like Jack the Stripper, NIFTECH, WD-40, etc. But make sure you put them on your tires about 10 minutes before a race so the liquids can soften up the tires.

Also, make sure your car is dialed to your track. Those Trans Am tires really really stink. And they take a while to break in.

BTW, tell me how that build of the TC5R goes. Some people have told me the fit and finish quality of the TC5R is really horrible and needs A LOT of sanding and grinding to fit. I do not know if this is true and I find it hard to believe since Serpent is usually known for that (from what I remember when building those VETEQ cars).
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Yes it is, but it is not legal for the Vintage races. At my track, 21.5 and either 4-cell NiMH or 2S LiPo up to 5000 Mah 35C is allowed. We have a 17.5 Foam Sedan class, and a 13.5 Rubber Sedan class as well. But as far as I have understood the rules and regulations to race in Trans-Am you will need ot use a 21.5 motor.
Not sure what you mean here. Legal USVTA combos are 21.5/lipo, 17.5/4 cell, and 27t/4 cell. 5000 7.4 is the max for lipos. Nimh cells are limited to 4600, I believe.
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TC5R - great, good car to use for TA if you can afford a new top of the line chassis.
Body...Camero is the widely used TA body.
Tires...there are only 1 kind (1 and only kind) of TA tires that you can use, from HPI, so you won't be able to get the wrong one.
Power plant....Novak 21.5 with any 2S lipo...

Balance your car good and start tunning and practice....
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Not sure what you mean here. Legal USVTA combos are 21.5/lipo, 17.5/4 cell, and 27t/4 cell. 5000 7.4 is the max for lipos. Nimh cells are limited to 4600, I believe.
Oh dear heavens!!! You're right!!

My sincere apologies everyone. I misread my track rules about the 4-cell 21.5 motor combo.
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Body...Camero is the widely used TA body.
The Pegasus Mach 70 is by far the toughest and most durable. If your track is small and aero doesn't play into setup, I'd use it as well.
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The Pegasus Mach 70 is by far the toughest and most durable. If your track is small and aero doesn't play into setup, I'd use it as well.
To be honest, I really do find the body makes very little difference. I have run the Pegasus cuda, boss mustang, 70 camaro, Hpi Camaro and Cuda and there is really no difference. The Pegasus bodies are a thinner material, and lighter. The HPI camaro is probably so popular since it is one piece and very low. The Pegasus Mustang is the same, but just a mustang shape.

I was practicing last Friday with a Pegasus Cuda (big fish) and I switched to the HPI camaro just to see if it would do anything. The car just did the same laps. I thought the Camaro would be a bit heavier and make the car tippy or change the handling, but it was virtually the same.

Not to mention, Mike Haynes destroyed everybody at the Halloween CLassic with a very shoebox like Parma Cuda. It was all about his car

I just think that after you see a few bumpers fly off, the one piece bodies look more attractive
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