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Old 01-22-2009, 02:52 PM   #61
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keep us posted, thats good to hear.

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Old 03-26-2009, 11:27 AM   #62
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:45 AM   #63
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Anything ever come of this?
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:20 PM   #64
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Basically, I learned that the prosecuters in this town aren't interested in someone who rips off a "toy car."

Nor do they like it when a regular person does almost all the work in tracking the guy down.

We're in the process of going after the guy in civil court.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:27 PM   #65
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Rediculous.... What differences does it make what "category" the items is in... what if it were a $500 lawn mower? Or a $500 diamond neclace? Would they be all over it then?
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:42 PM   #66
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I'm not sure. The Investigator was rather shocked that the prosecutor turned the case down.

I've been tempted to post all of the thief's info, but I still don't want to do anything that could screw a civil case up.
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I'm not sure. The Investigator was rather shocked that the prosecutor turned the case down.

I've been tempted to post all of the thief's info, but I still don't want to do anything that could screw a civil case up.
Unfortunately, law enforcement and "justice" in the USA seems all about revenue collection, property forfeiture and greed now. A few years ago, one of the local crackheads (who lived behind me with his grandpa, and is well known to the prosecutor and cops) decided to steal my US Cargo race car trailer. He cut two pad locks and broke my hitch lock to get it. I called the cops immediately when I discovered it missing. Had to go to the station to file a report. The crackhead was later caught by the cops with a stolen Kubota back hoe in it supposedly trying to sell the whole deal to an undercover cop for $300.00. The little bastard told the cops I "loaned" him the trailer and he "borrowed" it all the time, a couple of big fat lies! So the "law" impounded my trailer and held it as "evidence" for almost six months. At the time, I was racing for the championship at our local drag strip and had to buy another fucking trailer to haul my race car.

They finally decided to "release" my stolen trailer, not after the dozens of calls, visits and letters from me (and my lawyer), but after I inadvertantly ran into a deputy who knew my dad (who had recently passed away) and told him my story. BUT they charged me $12.50 PER DAY STORAGE! Had to pay it or they were gonna keep my trailer!!!! The impound yard had obviously been using my trailer while they had it. It was scratched all to fuck, filthy, shitty wiring repairs, everything missing and the tires were WORN out! So I paid 'em almost what a new trailer would cost but it WAS MY TRAILER! The crackhead thief was never charged nor procecuted for stealing my trailer (he supposedly turned state's evidence on another caper...). Now the ONLY time I would ever bother the pirate cops with ANYTHING is if I absolutely had to have a police report for insurance purposes. Otherwise its probably a waste of time, at least around here.

My only recourse was to sue the kid in civil court, he has nothing so why bother?

Good luck gettin' you car back!
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Ouch. That sucks.
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I sympathize with the OP and the above poster, tgardner41. My story:

I had a car stolen, it was found the next day and taken to an impound yard for a week waiting to be fingerprinted. No fingerprints found and the fee (ransom) to get my vandalized car back, $450. I told the towing company they were the real thieves. The detective found my cell phone in the car, the thieves had taken pics of themselves at a party. He asked the school liaison officer if he knew the kids. Nope. End of investigation. From my phone I had pictures of people, phone numbers, names, addresses from text messages and addresses from reverse searching phone numbers. I spent no money and a few nights in front of the computer and knew too much info for the cops not to do anything. Turns out auto theft in Los Angeles County is akin to jaywalking, they just weren't interested.

Many thoughts went through my head about what I would do to the kids if I ever saw them around. Why didn't I hear my car start up and leave? Only thing I can think of is they pushed it out of the parking garage, my car was not quiet and my bedroom window was open. In the end nothing ever came of it. I still have the cell phone in a drawer somewhere as a reminder. I do confess to driving by some of the addresses, not sure what I was hoping to find. I felt violated and angry, very angry. It was my property, how dare someone help themselves to it, if I ever get my hands on them.....

It took a while to get over it but I realized I had to let go. I was not doing myself any favors stewing over something I couldn't do anything about. Granted, with all the info I had I could've gone all Punisher on the kids, I had thoughts of burning down houses on more than a few sleepless nights. No good would've come from that, I had no way to know if they made a call from their grandmas house and I wasn't about to involve an innocent old lady in my quest for retribution. I will admit to carrying the phone around for a little while in case I had to make a quick ID in the grocery store of one of the perps, but again, not sure I would've done anything. The last thing I needed was to get arrested. In the end I have decided to leave it up to karma to take care of it for me. That allows me to get on with life and not hold a bunch of hate in my heart. Not that I want to admit it but I learned a valuable lesson from the theft. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a pacifist but some things are just not worth ruining your life over. Cars will come and go.

The whole situation sucks, I wish a favorable outcome for you. I would post the info on the thief if you cannot get in trouble for it. Here and at the hobby shop or local track. A little shame might be necessary, you will probably feel better.
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It took a while to get over it but I realized I had to let go. I was not doing myself any favors stewing over something I couldn't do anything about. Granted, with all the info I had I could've gone all Punisher on the kids, I had thoughts of burning down houses on more than a few sleepless nights. No good would've come from that, I had no way to know if they made a call from their grandmas house and I wasn't about to involve an innocent old lady in my quest for retribution. I will admit to carrying the phone around for a little while in case I had to make a quick ID in the grocery store of one of the perps, but again, not sure I would've done anything. The last thing I needed was to get arrested. In the end I have decided to leave it up to karma to take care of it for me. That allows me to get on with life and not hold a bunch of hate in my heart. Not that I want to admit it but I learned a valuable lesson from the theft. I'm not saying everyone needs to be a pacifist but some things are just not worth ruining your life over. Cars will come and go.

The whole situation sucks, I wish a favorable outcome for you. I would post the info on the thief if you cannot get in trouble for it. Here and at the hobby shop or local track. A little shame might be necessary, you will probably feel better.
Problem is when you're running a bussiness you need to turn a profit to survive. Above, someone tells us the story of how they caught shoplifters with stuff worth 15k$ or more. I guess the salary they get paid a year is more than that, so you ask yourself why does the shop even bother to employ them? Well, my guess is that without these guys, shoplifting would be rife. A lot more people would try it and they would all get away with it, because there will be nobody to get them.

I think this is a two way lesson. One is that you need to let it go if you can't do anything about it, but the other is to have some good B plan to protect your revenue, such as a CCTV monitoring system or some such. Then you can id the thieves and get them.

And yes, Police are not going to do anything pro-actively to chase a petty thief. They always say they have "more important jobs" to do. This basically means you're on your own. An UV marker or some such device is cheap and goes a long way to identify your stuff. Then anyone caught redhanded is easily proven.

Good luck.
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And yes, Police are not going to do anything pro-actively to chase a petty thief.
That's what we're talking about here.. this isn't petty theft, its grand theft. Something they should be very interested in, but aren't because of the type of item. If you are a shop owner and get $500 worth of merchendise stolen from your store, it doesn't matter WHAT kind of shop you have $500 is $500, which is "felony grand theft", not "misdimenor petty theft".
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That's what we're talking about here.. this isn't petty theft, its grand theft. Something they should be very interested in, but aren't because of the type of item. If you are a shop owner and get $500 worth of merchendise stolen from your store, it doesn't matter WHAT kind of shop you have $500 is $500, which is "felony grand theft", not "misdimenor petty theft".
I agree with you, even 100$ is too much, but that's the way it is.
I am not sure what qualifies in other countries as what but in Australia where I am, they're not going to do anything proactively even for 10K$. I think their policy is to get bussinesses to look after themselves. They don't even look for stolen cars here (proactively). If it shows up, good, if it doesn't, oh well, you better be insured.
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The same things happens in the UK ... we have TV programmes and the end summary can be so disappointing ... thief let off with a warning
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What ever came of this - anyone know..?
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Hire some people, have him...job done..
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