Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road
idea for a new sedan body >

idea for a new sedan body

idea for a new sedan body

Reply

Old 01-05-2009, 07:41 AM
  #1  
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
 
Foxxrocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 2,018
Default idea for a new sedan body



Was reading a car magazine and came across an article about Porsche's new car, the Panamera sedan. And thought it would be perfect for protoform, since they seem to be pumping out new bodies left and right.
Foxxrocket is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2009, 08:23 AM
  #2  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (73)
 
MikeXray's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York
Posts: 5,753
Trader Rating: 73 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Foxxrocket View Post


Was reading a car magazine and came across an article about Porsche's new car, the Panamera sedan. And thought it would be perfect for protoform, since they seem to be pumping out new bodies left and right.
I'll wait until the autoshow to see it in person, but that has to be the most godawful porsche ever made.
MikeXray is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2009, 08:28 AM
  #3  
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
 
Foxxrocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 2,018
Default

You won't get an argument from me. Just like their SUV.
Foxxrocket is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-05-2009, 03:25 PM
  #4  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (1)
 
nashrcracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: LA - Lower Antioch
Posts: 4,925
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

or the Lamborghini



http://jalopnik.com/5057354/lamborgh...ncept-revealed

or the Ferrari



http://www.motorauthority.com/ferrar...ntezemolo.html
nashrcracer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 05:51 AM
  #5  
Tech Master
iTrader: (9)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Perth, Australia.
Posts: 1,343
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

I would like to see that lambo as a seden body, there needs to be a good range of bodies to because I don't find the Mazda 6, Dodge Stratus, and DNA bodies appealing. But I would use something like the lambo and the ferrari.
I would like a Ford Escort MK2 2 door as a body to use, considering they are a 2 door seden from the factory and were never called a coupe by Ford.
Scooter79rs is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 06:29 AM
  #6  
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Europe
Posts: 177
Default

Something needs to be done about the TC body rules. We need to start racing with realistic looking bodies. The current 4 door TC bodies look more like 4 door GT bodies.

In 1/24 slot racing there is a class that use realistic bodies from the FIA GT1 and GT2 and soon maybe GT3 class. I think this should be the future for 1/10 scale touring cars.



http://picasaweb.google.com/Philippe...52974409575730

moonman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 06:37 AM
  #7  
Tech Master
iTrader: (8)
 
PitNamedGordie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Highwood, IL
Posts: 1,789
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by moonman View Post
Something needs to be done about the TC body rules. We need to start racing with realistic looking bodies. The current 4 door TC bodies look more like 4 door GT bodies.

In 1/24 slot racing there is a class that use realistic bodies from the FIA GT1 and GT2 and soon maybe GT3 class. I think this should be the future for 1/10 scale touring cars.



http://picasaweb.google.com/Philippe...52974409575730

The video of the Jet Alliance DB9 is cool. I was thinking of running a World GT car soon and want to run a DB9 body with a similar paint scheme.
PitNamedGordie is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 06:50 AM
  #8  
Tech Apprentice
 
tomt2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 80
Default

Why don't we just do away with touring bodies altogether and run real race cars like can-am's like 1/8th scales do. I'm sick of driving sh***t box mazda 6's or honda accord's. They get little to no down force and the massive big parachute at the back only slows the car down.
tomt2 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 07:00 AM
  #9  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
rcdougie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Stuart, FL
Posts: 489
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

I'd like to see cars that are more realistic and that I actually have a chance to own. I'll start with a Ford Fusion, Chevy Malibu and since the Mazda6 is redesigned, a new Mazda6. Lets get some new bodies out there that are current and up to date.
rcdougie is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 07:07 AM
  #10  
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
 
JCarr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dayton,OH
Posts: 1,250
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by tomt2 View Post
Why don't we just do away with touring bodies altogether and run real race cars like can-am's like 1/8th scales do. I'm sick of driving sh***t box mazda 6's or honda accord's. They get little to no down force and the massive big parachute at the back only slows the car down.
The class you want is pro10 not touring car. Personally I'm tired of all the doorstoop style bodies and want something that looks like a real car. Untill now all of the TC bodies have become slightly used bars of soap and all look the same except for the stickers. Protoform has been trying to be different with the R9 and the LTC and I applaud them for that.
JCarr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 10:03 AM
  #11  
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
 
John Doucakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 1,109
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default 4 door touring cars for racing?

I read quite often how some racers wish to run with bodies that look more like real passenger cars.
What I don’t understand is the logic behind this.

Race cars are made to perform well. To do so they need good power and good handling. In this respect any designer who is responsible for the body of a car would immediately start thinking on how to make the body with the smallest possible cabin/cockpit and largest wing area combined with smooth low lines.
This practice is most applied in 1/8 track, 1/12 GTP, and used to be the case with 1/10 Pro10 cars.
In my view all of the above classes look great. The cars are aggressive looking and they are purpose built to work well at high speed.

A sedan car is designed and built to accommodate 4 adults and transport them with safety and comfort from one place to another plus some extra space for their luggage.
Why on earth do we have to race cars that look like this?
It is like going to war and instead of using fighter planes we use Airbus or Boeing passenger planes.

The argument that people say, that they want to race the family cars they own, to my belief is just, how can I say it delicately… unreasonable..?

When the electric touring car class was first introduced and we had the first Worlds held in Japan in 2000 together with the 1/12 and 1/10 pan car classes, I immediately thought of how ugly these cars looked.
Thanks to the creativity of companies like Protoform, Parma and a few other the bodies started to look a bit more aggressive to the point that we have reached now where they look quite good.
Now people write on threads how these bodies don’t look similar to their Mazdas or Hondas or what ever else they see on the streets.

Lets see some real racing cars on the tracks, let the body designers express themselves freely and stop complaining about what is realistic or not.
You want realism, then just copy real racing cars, like open wheel formula cars or Le Mans sports cars, some of which you can see in this blog.
John Doucakis is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 10:49 AM
  #12  
Tech Elite
Thread Starter
 
Foxxrocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sonoma County
Posts: 2,018
Default

A sedan car is designed and built to accommodate 4 adults and transport them with safety and comfort from one place to another plus some extra space for their luggage.
Why on earth do we have to race cars that look like this?
It is like going to war and instead of using fighter planes we use Airbus or Boeing passenger planes.
Sedan cars are being raced all over the world. Here we call it the SCCA.

But generally I agree with all above. People should be able to race whatever body they like.
Foxxrocket is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 10:53 AM
  #13  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (36)
 
abailey21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,225
Trader Rating: 36 (100%+)
Default

So what your saying is that my Jeep Grand Cherokee isn't practical for TC???? lmao

I keed I keed

Originally Posted by John Doucakis View Post
I read quite often how some racers wish to run with bodies that look more like real passenger cars.
What I donít understand is the logic behind this.

Race cars are made to perform well. To do so they need good power and good handling. In this respect any designer who is responsible for the body of a car would immediately start thinking on how to make the body with the smallest possible cabin/cockpit and largest wing area combined with smooth low lines.
This practice is most applied in 1/8 track, 1/12 GTP, and used to be the case with 1/10 Pro10 cars.
In my view all of the above classes look great. The cars are aggressive looking and they are purpose built to work well at high speed.

A sedan car is designed and built to accommodate 4 adults and transport them with safety and comfort from one place to another plus some extra space for their luggage.
Why on earth do we have to race cars that look like this?
It is like going to war and instead of using fighter planes we use Airbus or Boeing passenger planes.

The argument that people say, that they want to race the family cars they own, to my belief is just, how can I say it delicatelyÖ unreasonable..?

When the electric touring car class was first introduced and we had the first Worlds held in Japan in 2000 together with the 1/12 and 1/10 pan car classes, I immediately thought of how ugly these cars looked.
Thanks to the creativity of companies like Protoform, Parma and a few other the bodies started to look a bit more aggressive to the point that we have reached now where they look quite good.
Now people write on threads how these bodies donít look similar to their Mazdas or Hondas or what ever else they see on the streets.

Lets see some real racing cars on the tracks, let the body designers express themselves freely and stop complaining about what is realistic or not.
You want realism, then just copy real racing cars, like open wheel formula cars or Le Mans sports cars, some of which you can see in this blog.
abailey21 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 12:30 PM
  #14  
Tech Master
iTrader: (8)
 
PitNamedGordie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Highwood, IL
Posts: 1,789
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

I think in RC sedan racing you have a lot of follow the leader mentality. If the fast guys are running a Mazda 6 then most will follow. And right now the Mazda is probably the most consistent and wide used body out there due to the fact it is even tempered on the track.

I'm wondering when we say we want more realistic bodies do we mean more defined bodies...not the squashed jelly bean? Or are we saying more variety? Or both?

I would like more definition in some of the bodies....I like the looks of the R9 because of that. I tried to run it for a few weeks but couldn't find a setup I liked, so I went back to the Mazda 6. I am looking forward to the LTC-R and will buy one when my shop gets some more in stock. But with "real car" bodies it comes down to licensing rights and cost...and I'm not sure how that effects companies like Protoform but I am sure it limits what they can do.

I'm not sure how Tamiya does it but their bodies are great looking but are only TCS legal. But with that said...if the Tamiya Ferrari 430 or Lexus SC430 became ROAR legal and the Mazda 6 was the faster body...which one would you race with?

Last edited by PitNamedGordie; 01-06-2009 at 12:33 PM. Reason: typos
PitNamedGordie is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2009, 01:13 PM
  #15  
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
 
John Doucakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Athens, Greece
Posts: 1,109
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

I do agree that it would be nice to have bodies with more details but we must understand that to make such molds might increase the price of the final product substantially.
John Doucakis is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Terms of Service