Gear Box Ratio's
Does anyone here change their gearbox ratio for particular tracks or racing conditions? (Not to be confused with Spur/Pinion Gear Ratio or Final Drive Ratio). If so, what gearbox ratio have you settled on most of the time and why? I've figured I can change mine pretty much anywhere between 2.25-1.88. What seems to be most efficient for you? I know there are tons of factors to consider but I thought it would be an interesting, fun topic to discuss.
Currently running 107/36 Spur/Pinion, 2.0 gearbox with FDR of 5.94 |
I wouldn't think it would be an efficiency issue but instead an issue that deals with getting an appropriate FDR for higher turn brushless motors.
I've never changed nor would consider changing my vehicle's internal drive ratio. |
If you compared a gearbox 36/18 to 34/17 the ratio would be the same, 2.0. Depending on a given course one combo has to have an advantage over the other.
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Originally Posted by RielTime Racing
(Post 5246322)
If you compared a gearbox 36/18 to 34/17 the ratio would be the same, 2.0. Depending on a given course one combo has to have an advantage over the other.
Why should there be an advantage? :confused: |
I would think that one ratio would be more efficient on the motor, or better on acceleration, or holding speed for certain parts of the course.
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In theory the bigger pulleys will give a slight increase in efficiency due to less belt wrap.
How much of a difference not really sure, probably not enough to notice. |
Originally Posted by RielTime Racing
(Post 5246322)
If you compared a gearbox 36/18 to 34/17 the ratio would be the same, 2.0. Depending on a given course one combo has to have an advantage over the other.
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Originally Posted by Trips
(Post 5247042)
The 2.0 ratio would have a clear and noticeable advantage.
I think that you misunderstood.... both examples he gave were a 2.0 ratio, he was just asking which one would be more beneficial for particular applications. |
Originally Posted by jbmx4life
(Post 5249577)
:weird:
I think that you misunderstood.... both examples he gave were a 2.0 ratio, he was just asking which one would be more beneficial for particular applications. |
Originally Posted by jbmx4life
(Post 5249577)
:weird:
I think that you misunderstood.... both examples he gave were a 2.0 ratio, he was just asking which one would be more beneficial for particular applications. I responded that I thought the 2:1 ratio would be the better of the two. |
Originally Posted by Trips
(Post 5251223)
I understood completely. He said an 18/36 set of pulleys and a 17/34 set of pulleys both have a 2:1 ratio, but one would have to have an advantage over the other.
I responded that I thought the 2:1 ratio would be the better of the two. |
Originally Posted by jbmx4life
(Post 5252193)
:lol: :tire: :nod: :lol: :tire: :nod:
If we're comparing different ratios in the same car, then there are situations where one might prove better. I can think of two cases off the top of my head... You might find that you can't achieve the final ratio you want given pinion/spur availability unless you use a certain transmission ratio, in which case the choice is made for you. In other cases, you might be able to get to your ideal final ratio with either of several pulley ratios, but depending on pulley ratio you might find a spur piniono combo that moves the motor slightly forward or rearward in the car to optimize front/rear weight bias without having to add ballast to the car. I've never actually gone so far as to change pulley ratio in a TC to tune weight bias, but I suspect some might go that far. I will say that I HAVE at times changed spur/pinion combos in a pan car to keep the same gear ratio, but move the motor further or closer to the rear axle. |
Originally Posted by Trips
(Post 5252383)
All kidding aside now, some might say the 18/36 set of pulleys might have a slight efficiency advantage over the 17/34 due to the belts making bigger radius turns, but there might be a loss of efficiency with the bigger pulleys due to increased friction having more belt teeth engaged than with the smaller set. I have no idea which would work better.
If we're comparing different ratios in the same car, then there are situations where one might prove better. I can think of two cases off the top of my head... You might find that you can't achieve the final ratio you want given pinion/spur availability unless you use a certain transmission ratio, in which case the choice is made for you. In other cases, you might be able to get to your ideal final ratio with either of several pulley ratios, but depending on pulley ratio you might find a spur piniono combo that moves the motor slightly forward or rearward in the car to optimize front/rear weight bias without having to add ballast to the car. I've never actually gone so far as to change pulley ratio in a TC to tune weight bias, but I suspect some might go that far. I will say that I HAVE at times changed spur/pinion combos in a pan car to keep the same gear ratio, but move the motor further or closer to the rear axle. Yeah, I'd think smaller pulley would be and advantage for tight, twisty tracks or a need for quik accelerations and the larger pulley for long high speed flow tracks. |
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