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Old 12-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #1
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Default 1/10 Mugen MTX4-R Brushless Conversion

I have had a Mugen MTX4-R kit lying around for a couple months. Im from Canada, and we dont have the greatest outdoor paved racing facilities, so I decided to make the kit a project car and convert it an electric brushless setup. However, I am having a very difficult time understanding,

1. Which brushless motor would be best to achieve a car comparable with power, torque, and speed comparable to top end .12 nitro engines. Looking into 1500 series Neu motors, but really do not understand the differences between each (1509, 1512, 1515) or the wind and what they mean (2D, 2.5D, 3Y, etc.)

2. Which batteries to use. All the lipo talk has me confused (1s, 2s, 1p, 2p???)

3. What kind of brushless ESC to use?

4. Motor gearing. Have done some research, and will keep it single speed to start off. Thinking of keeping roll out as close to 1 as possible. But would be interested in learning more.

I have pretty much worked out how to fit in the system to the car, but really need help with the above. I dont have the money to experiment and blow up stuff loll, eventhough thats bound to happen. I just want some insight so I know where to begin. In terms of motors, I was thinking of getting a Neu 1500 series motor, but again do not know which would be best for this application. I know somebody dropped a 1512 in a 1/8 serpent, and it was lightning quick, but I think its too much power for me. I am not looking for all out speed, but a car that can actually handle around a track. I basically want the power of a top end Novarossi engine.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:15 PM   #2
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I don't know if you have noticed, but 1:10 electric touring cars already exist Althouh they are only 190mm wide, I think converting something that was created for nitro to electric power when there are a bunch of very good electric cars available seems to me like taking a Yamaha R1 and mounting pedals on it, trying to make a bicycle. It will kinda work, but a real bicycle will run circles around it.
I'd say just sell the MTX4 and buy yourself an electric car.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:03 PM   #3
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I think you can get yourself one of those 1/8 scale conversion BL sets for those converting from nitro 1/8 buggies to EP. I think novak, hacker...etc... have BL systems that can convert your ride to EP.

Maybe you can seach the forum, I believe there will be some topics on converting their nitro ride to EP.
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I'd say just sell the MTX4 and buy yourself an electric car.
I agree. I think it would be a total waste of a great car. I saw a guy that did a NTC3 and it was ok but it didn't seem as good as it could have been, had it been designed for an electric setup.
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What's the point! Not trying to be rood but why spend so much time and money when they already make electric car's, POINTLESS!
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:06 AM   #6
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I thought it would be a good challenge. Anyone can buy stuff and drop it in. I have two electric cars, but I dont think they can survive the power of some of the higher end motors. The 1/10 gas cars are built pretty solid, so I thought it would be interesting. I understand everyones annoyance of my idea haha, but if you can just answer some of my questions, that would be great. Thanks.
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If you not trying to race ill go with, venom brushless system 3.5, the battery i dont know your money situation but you can get some maxamps 2s 6500.
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I actually thought about this. I have converted many many cars. But never a touring car

I know my MTX4R was a hell of a lot stronger then my cyclone So IDK. It might work well or might be pointless

Id run a Neu 1509 on 3, or 4s. Pick a motor that gives you 30-35,000 RPM and gear for how ever fast a gas car goes (IDK there...)

For 4s, Id go with a 3D (2250 KV) Or a 2D for 3s. Personally, id do 4s, run a 2200-2500 mah lipo would be good for 15-20 mins of racing

I would not go with 2s. To low of voltage, to high KV to make it worth while and work well. The car will be about the same with 4s, just alot more efficient because your using voltage to make RPM over KV
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