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Old 12-19-2008, 03:26 PM   #16
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I think Associated would benefit from improved diffs. From what I've seen, they require a lot more attention than other brands. Tamiya, HB and Corally seem to have figured it out, putting the balls at the far edges of the pulleys, using more of them, and using much bigger diff rings.
I have to disagree.......the tc5 diffs are the longest lasting smoothest diffs I have ever worked on.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:21 PM   #17
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I have to disagree.......the tc5 diffs are the longest lasting smoothest diffs I have ever worked on.
You should get out more! :-)

My experience has only been the frustration of those around me. I try to comfort them by handing over one of my 2 month old diffs that's still smoother than their rebuild, but that doesn't seem to help.

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Old 12-19-2008, 05:10 PM   #18
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I like my TC5 diff's. I haven't rebuilt them since I built the car in September. When I had a HB car I didn't have to rebuild them either. It is all in how you build them. I follow this procedure and have not yet had a problem.
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I have raced both the Cyclone and TC5 in mod (foam asphalt) and really there is nothing in it, as long as you have a decent setup on the car you would be hard pressed to tell which car was under the body.

As for durability, they both seem the same, I basically have broken nothing on both.

Again working on either is pretty much the same, they both have their easy and difficult bits but nothing too nasty.

Stick to the TC5 if you have it sorted, you will only go through the same problem with the Cyclone unless it miraculously has a perfect setup for your track out of the box.
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I think Associated would benefit from improved diffs. From what I've seen, they require a lot more attention than other brands. Tamiya, HB and Corally seem to have figured it out, putting the balls at the far edges of the pulleys, using more of them, and using much bigger diff rings.
Associated probably has some of the best diffs since the time of the RC10 tub car. The first plastic diffs I had in my car never got rebuilt. I finally took them out of the car to try the aluminum halves. Both types were butter smooth
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Alright, I take it back, I'm only going based on what I've seen from close friends running the car, not my own experience. Perhaps they're doing something wrong.

Josh, sorry I gave you a complex! Dustin said he had to feel your diff to reassure you.
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i run joshs rubber tire setup at my track and it is dialed. i keep up with corally and the cyclone with the same laptimes. matter of fact alot of those guys are now switching to the tc5 because of the expense of the corally and cyclone. believe me i do not miss my 415msx. go with the tc5 you wont be sorry
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There is no reasone anyone would have to remove the motor with motor plate to change the pinion
You dont have to but sometimes its easier to. Trying to work a big pinion around the belt that is blocking it can be downright frustrating. If I were running foam tires and needed to changes pinions a lot I would likely take the motor plate off to change my pinions. Though since running a softer belt up front it has gotten a bit easier.

I've owned both cars (currently running the TC5). I agree the Cyclone is generally easier to work on. Its a little less durable though and parts are a litle more difficult to get so I went with the TC5. The TC5 drivetrain seems to be a little less efficient then many other cars. Your motors will generally run hotter then they will with a lot of other cars. I've done a lot of things to free mine up but I still can't run some of the rollouts others do safely.
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it is easy to take out motor mount to change pinion..or not..about the diffs..i recieved my tc5 about 2 weeks before 07n reddy race..i finally rebuilt he rear diff after 79 runs..it still wasnt bad..just startin to get gritty...i think the associated diffs are the best around..be it onroad or offroad..i do have both a tc5 and a hot bodies tc..they both have their ups and downs...both handle great. but as far as parts go..tc5 is the winner..easy to get parts and way cheaper thean a hpi hot bodies parts..seems to be more durable that the tc also..
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I have to disagree.......the tc5 diffs are the longest lasting smoothest diffs I have ever worked on.
No offense but this seems a little out of line with my experience. I have run two (TC5s) cars for the last year both inside on carpet and outside and I have spent more time rebuilding diffs then any other car I have ever owned. I guess I am doing something wrong cause it sounds like your diffs might be preforming differently. I also run diffs front and rear most of the time so I have to rebuild twice as often as someone that is running a spool or one-way in the front.

For whatever it is worth my personal improvements would be:
Larger diff rings
Larger diff balls
Caged thrust bearing
dust covers
The inside of the diff needs to be thicker to remove side to side play (between the out drives and the pulley)

Maybe a good write up on your process might help a lot of TC5 drivers build the ever lasting diff. I know I could have used it !
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