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Old 10-14-2003, 10:16 PM   #16
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Gys,

This is the CHamps!!! Two practice sessions and its qualifying time!! There is NO time to figure out motors. YOu either come prepared-or you go home with a N-Main trophy!!!!


I think it best to knock the bearings out of the 19th binary, put bushings in and run it at 27 and 36 degrees of timong and see what happens. Cannot wai to hear what RCsilly has to say!!!!


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Old 10-15-2003, 09:22 AM   #17
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Ray: That will give you NO indication as to how this motor's gonna run. It's a FLAT sided can with 24 degrees timing, with the quad mag set-up skewed to give approximately 36 degrees of timing. If you build it in a binary can, you've got a standard Quad set-up in a round can, plus I believe the Epic stocks are epoxy balanced so there's yet another variable.

What you're going to do for Touring car is probably going to be VERY Monsteresque. I already have ideas about 12th, which I'll share with you in a slightly more secure environment. These motors should be fast, but will also be VERY HUNGRY for MAH.
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Old 10-15-2003, 09:51 AM   #18
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Cypress-you know it!! I am building new packs every few days as I receive them!!! I will run them at the Halloween Classic then put them away till the week before the Champs!!!

Man-this is gonna be nuts the Champs. All this Horsepower!!!
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I remember the days of the KYOSHO handout motors. You could only make them fast by putting them in the trunk of one of Ernie's Ferrari's and then letting me drive with no fear of police intervention!

Now we go and we get decent motors, how cool is that?
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You either come prepared-or you go home with a N-Main trophy!!!!
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I would be doing cartwheels in the parking lot if I came home with an N-Main trophy
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Old 10-15-2003, 11:58 AM   #21
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I would be doing cartwheels in the parking lot if I came home with an N-Main trophy
...now THAT i want to see.
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Old 10-15-2003, 03:02 PM   #22
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Ray,
our track testing with the "frankenmotor " shows that what we created has more rpm than the current run of the mill monster , we ran it in a 1/12 th ( 8 amps at 5v ) 4505s , green / green , and rolled it out the same as we do the monsters. lotsa straight line speed , better rip off the tight corners ,with Fuku & Otec 3300s run time is good, but it did make more heat ( timing ) we will try some other rollouts , and other stuff and let you know.
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it will make the champs alot of fun , I know that !
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Ray,
our track testing with the "frankenmotor " shows that what we created has more rpm than the current run of the mill monster , we ran it in a 1/12 th ( 8 amps at 5v ) 4505s , green / green , and rolled it out the same as we do the monsters. lotsa straight line speed , better rip off the tight corners ,with Fuku & Otec 3300s run time is good, but it did make more heat ( timing ) we will try some other rollouts , and other stuff and let you know.
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it will make the champs alot of fun , I know that !
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Old 10-15-2003, 05:08 PM   #24
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I think this going to be a great motor. I don't run much stock any more, but maybe I'll have to get one of these from my sponsor to play around with. He has done some testing on these and says they are wickedly fast.
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Umm...is it me or did they remove the pics fom their site?
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Try this URL:
http://www.teamtrinity.com/hobbyvisions03.asp

I do not see what is so exciting about this motor, though. Anybody can make a cheater motor that is faster than a ROAR legal stock motor. This new Trinity motor clearly breaks at least two ROAR rules; quad mags & epoxy balancing. What is appauling is that Trinity is trying to call this a stock motor, because it is clearly not a stock motor. It is a 27 turn mod motor. Since it is only legal for mod class, I cannot see any reason to get one. There are much faster mod motors out there.

What I suspect is that Trinity is trying to force ROAR into changing the rules on stock class to allow for quad mags and epoxy balancing. That would be the stupidest thing ROAR could do. Stock class is already too fast for many new racers. Changing stock class to be even faster will only serve to make entry into the racing aspect of the hobby even harder for newbies.
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I totally agree with Shiloh's comments... which all begs the question "Why is stock so popular?" It's not cheaper. In no way is it a "controlled motor" class any more. So why is it that at most tracks that I have been to, stock is the most popular class?
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RCsilly-thanks for the info!!

Cracker-I am not even going to turn this into a stock vs. mod is cheaper thread!!!

I am actually contemplating running 19 turn at my track a couple of times just in case the handout motor for the Champ is just whicked fast!!! Dont want to be in shock the first qualifier!!!
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It is a cheaper class - the motors cost half, the speedo's you need can cost 1/3 of the price.

Now maybe the top people do spend a lot on it - a couple of motors to experiment with, regular rebuilds, top end ESC - but playing with full modifieds is even more expensive than that.

With stock, you can at least feel like you're competing without having to drop big money - you can get some pretty good laptimes in with less expensive stuff (granted, for that last 5% you need to spend a bit more money). Now in modified, a 17-turn motor and a basic speedo won't get you close to the 10-turn motors.

Plus the lack of power in stock makes for closer racing, especially when the track is a bit on the small side. I like stock - our club actually has no motor rules, and running mod is only worth a few tenths a lap, if you can keep it on the track!
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Cracker-I am not even going to turn this into a stock vs. mod is cheaper thread!!!
hahaha you are right ray... this not the right thread for this... i will refrain from any further comments
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