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Old 12-05-2008, 12:21 PM   #16
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Get rid of all superstock classes and limit people to 2 classes per race.
AMEN!!! It works in off-road! Stock and Mod...thats it!
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:22 PM   #17
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The reason I quit on-road and will not go back is because the sport puts no value or appreciation for the modiflied class`s....
Really..... I thought you suck in TC mod....lol
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:23 PM   #18
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Go to one motor (no limit) and split into three classes by driving skill.
Good idea, but won't work on the club level until everyone runs at least one qualifier.

Foam Tire Sedan has completely died at our track, leaving 1/12 and World GT our only on-road classes, both running 17.5 Brushless motors.

Honestly, isn't it is easier to cut a class once interest dies off. Most track owners have a feel for what is being run, and only offers classes that match the majority of that type.


While I feel Foam Tire Sedan will be going away in increased favor of Rubber Tire Sedan, I don't think Touring Car will be gone anytime soon.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:26 PM   #19
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I think it's so everyone feels they have a chance at the A, because no one wants to go home 3rd in the C on a club night.
This is what is fueling all the classes at "big" races.

I have counted at an oval track near me in the last 3 months, every week someone has posted starting a "XXXX class" look back at the results and good chance that person was one of 3 in the B on a club race night in one of the "normal" oval classes.

We counted it Sun. they now have a possibility of about 11 classes on a Sat. with only 35-40 entries..
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:28 PM   #20
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This is what I would like to see even though I just stick with 13.5 mostly

I would rather see all sedan racing to be on all one tire. So if the track wants a foam race, its foam tires. If the track wants rubber tires, its rubber tires. So the tire choice is up to the track hosting the event.

For 1:12 racing. 17.5 is fine, but 13.5 needs to be there to bridge the gap between mod.

World GT is the same as 1:12. There needs to be a fast class and slow class but untill the numbers pick up no middle class.
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Old 12-05-2008, 12:29 PM   #21
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Really..... I thought you suck in TC mod....lol
No , I`m better than almost every Sedan driver in the N/w...

specially you ...


Rick suggestion would be kool cept the Expert motor`s choice should be open to the racer..

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Old 12-05-2008, 12:47 PM   #22
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This is what I would like to see even though I just stick with 13.5 mostly

I would rather see all sedan racing to be on all one tire. So if the track wants a foam race, its foam tires. If the track wants rubber tires, its rubber tires. So the tire choice is up to the track hosting the event.

For 1:12 racing. 17.5 is fine, but 13.5 needs to be there to bridge the gap between mod.

World GT is the same as 1:12. There needs to be a fast class and slow class but untill the numbers pick up no middle class.


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Old 12-05-2008, 12:52 PM   #23
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Interesting discussion.

In the UK, the BRCA has ditched stock altogether at our national events, which leaves us with Pro-Stock (10.5) and 5cell Mod.

Some complained, but it certainly increases the fields in those classes and prevents the sandbaggers from sitting in 27t at nationals This meant we had about 130 drivers at the 2 day nationals (only one class per driver).

This year GT10 might be included as a 'demo' class while full technical regs etc are experimented with.

Foam is virtually dead in the UK, I don't know of any championships and virtually no clubs that run them, ironically the GT10's will of course use foams.

Even at the other championships there tend to be 3 classes, Stock, Pro-Stock and Mod. Probably 4 after the winter as some of the others also choose to include GT10.

Does seem a little strange to see results etc in the US and see a lot of classes.

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Old 12-05-2008, 01:16 PM   #24
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Personally I'd like to see stock 17.5 Rubber TC and 1/12th, Mod (10.5) TC Rubber and 1/12th as well as VTA and 13.5 World GT. Six classes puts us back where we were a couple years ago with enough variety to please almost everybody. I'm a foam TC racer myself but I think going to rubber just like the rest of the world would only make sense, but that is just me.
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Don't cut classes, just make your big races rubber tire only.
Definitely get rid of the Touring Foam classes. No one else runs Touring Foam except for the U.S.

Stock Rubber TC - 17.5
Stock 1:12 - 17.5
Mod Rubber TC - 10.5
Mod 1:12 - 10.5
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VTA

Also, I'd like to see all the racing organizations under IFMAR all conform to the same rules so you don't have one continent running 4 cell and another running 5 cell and another running 6 cell.
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:33 PM   #25
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There are not to many classes, or to many big evetns....there are to many big events trying to run all the classes to please everyone.

If you hit 'for instance' all the big carpet races, IIC, Halloween Classic, US Champs, Novak Race, Snowbirds, ROAR Nats. Not to mention several large regional type events or series such as the Northeast Grand Slam.

These races should consider consolidating and sharing the class load, for instance:
IIC could get all Touring car classes
US champs begun as a 1/12 event and could return to that format
The Novak race is already touring only
Snowbirds, well that race is just to damn big,

Other classes could be split, perhaps a seperate nationals for 1/12 and 1/10 or Foam and rubber, that would make a lot of foam guys happier

Overall the dwindling economy added to extended days of racing make it tough to fill any class, it sucks needing to take Wed - Sun for a race
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KEEP THE FOAMS...........just instead of 5 TC classes cut back to 3 mod, 13.5 foam, 10.5 rubber
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:25 PM   #27
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KEEP THE FOAMS...........just instead of 5 TC classes cut back to 3 mod, 13.5 foam, 10.5 rubber

ChadRacing - I understand everyone's desire to keep running Foam on Sedan, but the facts are just that, facts. Foam Sedan is in HUGE decline, and if we want to save Touring Car Class (Sedan) from death in the USA, we need to conform to the rest of the WORLD, and run Rubber Tires on Sedan.

As for Pan Cars, 1/12 and 1/10 GT, Foam are the only choice.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:31 PM   #28
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I like the format of the European Nationals. NO STOCK CLASSES. I mean come on, at the national level we should have the "best of the best" racing. These drivers should be way beyond the entry/beginner level of stock racing. Running Stock at National level events makes it look like a glorified club race! Stock should be reserved for beginners running at club level races.

Foam can only be kept alive for so long in the Touring class. Eliminating it from National level races will help speed up the process and move things forward. I would also like to see a Spec Foam Tire(like in WGT) used in 1/12th racing. Everyone on the same foam.

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13.5 or 10.5 Super Stock Rubber Touring
Open Mod Rubber Touring

1/12th GTP 13.5 or 10.5 Super Stock
1/12th GTP Open Mod

World GT 13.5


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i dont think someone should be limited on the classes. If there payn what difference does it make. The only advantage is more track time.

As for the classes you have to keep mod and stock and i like the idea of just 13.5 or just 10.5 not both.
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:37 PM   #30
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Bring back Mod & Stock only classes...

TC - rubber
Pan car - foam
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