Novak Havoc Spec Brushless System: 10.5, 13.5, 17.5, & 21.5
12-03-2008, 01:51 PM
#1
Novak Havoc Spec Brushless System: 10.5, 13.5, 17.5, & 21.5
This new system has popped up in a few threads so far, but I haven't seen one dedicated to it so here goes.
Novak Havoc Spec Website
It seems that the Havoc ESC is pretty similar to the (discontinued?) XBR.
The motors in the bundle are the regular high-end ROAR-approved SS Pro sintered rotor motors.
The kicker is that these bundled motor/ESC combos will sell for $150. I think this brings brushless down to earth price-wise and will make it possible for a lot of people to make the change.
They're supposed to be available very soon. The Havoc is nothing new and neither are the motors, so all they're waiting on is packaging.
I also don't think there's much of a disadvantage to the Havoc vs. the GTB for example with these higher-turn motors.
I'd expect to see a ton of these in USVTA with the 21.5.
Opinions?
Novak Havoc Spec Website
It seems that the Havoc ESC is pretty similar to the (discontinued?) XBR.
The motors in the bundle are the regular high-end ROAR-approved SS Pro sintered rotor motors.
The kicker is that these bundled motor/ESC combos will sell for $150. I think this brings brushless down to earth price-wise and will make it possible for a lot of people to make the change.
They're supposed to be available very soon. The Havoc is nothing new and neither are the motors, so all they're waiting on is packaging.
I also don't think there's much of a disadvantage to the Havoc vs. the GTB for example with these higher-turn motors.
I'd expect to see a ton of these in USVTA with the 21.5.
Opinions?
12-03-2008, 02:29 PM
#5
This new system has popped up in a few threads so far, but I haven't seen one dedicated to it so here goes.
Novak Havoc Spec Website
It seems that the Havoc ESC is pretty similar to the (discontinued?) XBR.
Novak Havoc Spec Website
It seems that the Havoc ESC is pretty similar to the (discontinued?) XBR.
Did they change the programming so that instead of using all three brushless phases in brushed mode, they are only using one?
12-03-2008, 02:33 PM
#6
But for the other 95% of us I bet it would be hard to tell.
12-03-2008, 02:35 PM
#7
Except that the brushed motor limit on the XBR was "No Limit" (according to the box it came in) and a rated current of 480A in brushed mode. Yet the Havoc, with the same brushless motor limit has a 27 turn limit in brushed mode.
Did they change the programming so that instead of using all three brushless phases in brushed mode, they are only using one?
Did they change the programming so that instead of using all three brushless phases in brushed mode, they are only using one?
Interesting though. You know that at this price something had to go, and they've obviously concentrated on the brushless market with this one.
12-03-2008, 02:45 PM
#8
And yes one will be in my VTA. Can't wait
12-08-2008, 01:59 PM
#11
I asked Steve Weiss from Novak about the Havoc over in his thread -- sounds promising!
Originally Posted by reenmachine
OK, what can you tell us about the Havoc combos? Is this going to be the ticket for higher-turn, lower cost spec series like USVTA (21.5) and RCGT (17.5)?
Is one really sacrificing anything to the GTB with these slower combos?
Is one really sacrificing anything to the GTB with these slower combos?
Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
Reen:
I think most people in most applications will not see a big difference between the Havoc and the GTB in the 21.5 and 17.5 classes you have mentioned.
On paper, the GTB definately has a lower resistance, which should translate to slightly more power, but the differences are very minute... the solder joints on your wires account for more resistance than the difference in the total RDS on of the system.
I think most people in most applications will not see a big difference between the Havoc and the GTB in the 21.5 and 17.5 classes you have mentioned.
On paper, the GTB definately has a lower resistance, which should translate to slightly more power, but the differences are very minute... the solder joints on your wires account for more resistance than the difference in the total RDS on of the system.
01-02-2009, 12:41 PM
#15
I just back ordered a Havoc 21.5 combo and used the coupon code. I ordered a body at the same time, and got this message about the discount:
That says to me that I will indeed get the discount.
Ad number promotion (014E8 - SAVE $20) will be applied when shippable item(s) reach the required dollar amount of $148.90.