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Old 11-25-2008, 06:21 PM   #16
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did you guys read the part about indoor asphalt?? talk to any of the racers that raced at Seattle Indoor Raceway during the 07 paved nats, most ran carpet setups, and for the mod foam guys, foams are killer on indoor asphalt. rocks and such have not been a problem tearing up drive trains. as far as which will draw and keep more racers? depends if your racers believe in carpet season and asphalt season, when i asked why you putting carpet in , i got, 'cause its carpet season. uh no, its indoor season which usually means carpet, but carpet season, NO. Some tracks like the one listed above and even SIR has put carpet in so guys going to big races can have a place to practice, but IMO i disagree with building a test track for a few and making everyone else adapt to it.

and with all that being said, they just layed carpet over the top
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:22 PM   #17
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How come we don't race touring on asphalt with nitro tires?

they seem to last a bit longer compared to regular carpet foams on asphalt would, and they wouldn't whither or welt as if rubber tires would.
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:40 PM   #18
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How come we don't race touring on asphalt with nitro tires?

they seem to last a bit longer compared to regular carpet foams on asphalt would, and they wouldn't whither or welt as if rubber tires would.
1) rubber tires don't need to be trued down, foams do if you want to get the ebst performance out of them.

2) with rubber tires you don't have worry about resetting ride height, droop, camber after every run or two. With foams you do, and it can get anoying.

3) Rubber tires are almost twice as expensive to run, however
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Old 11-25-2008, 06:58 PM   #19
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I have raced 80% on carpet/rubber, with the rest being on asphalt/rubber.
No traction compounds used ever.
Have raced in multiple classes, 2 different chassis.

As for the tyres squealing on asphalt but not on carpet?
You should come visit my local indoor carpet track, plenty of squealing of the tyres going on for those that enjoy that part.

But anyways, here's my take on the 2 surface options....

Carpet:
- clean, indoor environment
- generally consistent surface (temps, traction etc)
- tyres wear less
- has opportunity to run 1/12th scale
- smooth surfaces
- less body shell damage on rollovers etc

Asphalt:
- more dirt, dust and sand to mess up your car
- increased likelihood of spur/pinion/belt/diff damage due to the above
- tyres dont last as long, wear out quicker
- can be rough/bumpy outdoors on unprepped non-permanent tracks
- harder to find a setup that works when the traction can be inconsistent

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Old 11-25-2008, 07:04 PM   #20
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once again i will ask,,,, did you see the part about it being a indoor asphalt track
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Carpet's fer racin'...asphalt's fer drivin' there.

Just my personal preference anymore. We're talking about getting an outdoor asphalt program going for the summer months so we'll see if my opinion remains static.

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Old 11-25-2008, 08:05 PM   #22
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Scott,

Asphalt is great! I'd make a trip up there for a trophy race if u guys had outdoor asphalt.

Also who says, you can't run 1/12th on pavement?

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I think the size of the track is an issue for 12th scale, moreso than the surface.

To me it seems that smaller tracks are more suited to this scale and there doesnt seem to be a great deal of outdoor asphalt tracks that are small enough.

Indoor carpet tracks tend to be smaller, more compact and technical.
This IMHO makes carpet/indoor more suited to 12th scale.

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Old 11-25-2008, 09:19 PM   #24
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once again i will ask,,,, did you see the part about it being a indoor asphalt track

LOL, I guess nobody has heard of indoor asphalt... Everyone else seems to be comparing outdoor asphalt to indoor carpet...
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So many racers whined about the lack of grip on the asphalt they put the carpet down early.
lack of grip on tarmac is what SETUP is for don't get it right, you're not 'up there'.
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