143LikesAwesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
11-14-2011, 01:27 PM
#841
Dear friends,
Suspension stiffness in the cars of Ronald Volker and Jilles Groskamp are as follows according to my calculations:
Front suspension 87-96 gF/ mm
Rear suspension 109-116 gF/ mm
All the latest published Ronald's and Jilles's set-ups are placed within these ranges of suspension stiffness.
Please note : this is not the stiffness of individual springs but the total suspension stiffness - same as on our graphs.
Suspension stiffness in the cars of Ronald Volker and Jilles Groskamp are as follows according to my calculations:
Front suspension 87-96 gF/ mm
Rear suspension 109-116 gF/ mm
All the latest published Ronald's and Jilles's set-ups are placed within these ranges of suspension stiffness.
Please note : this is not the stiffness of individual springs but the total suspension stiffness - same as on our graphs.
11-14-2011, 01:29 PM
#842
Just about ready
Last edited by hana166; 10-11-2013 at 10:48 PM.
11-14-2011, 01:41 PM
#843
Tech Fanatic
It is mechanical calculation based on the stiffness of springs indicated in setup, shocks position and suspension geometry of the mentioned cars .
I very much hope that the top drivers did not repaint the springs to confuse opponents
.Rigidity of the wheel and tire are not taken into account.
Last edited by Oleg Babich; 11-14-2011 at 01:54 PM.
11-14-2011, 01:56 PM
#844
Tech Initiate
I had been looking up on this and give up when I realised just how complicated it would be to work out. Thanks Oleg for working this out, looking at what settings I finished up with on Sunday i'm in similar range.
11-14-2011, 01:57 PM
#845
It is not measurement.
It is mechanical calculation based on the stiffness of springs indicated in setup, shocks position and suspension geometry of the mentioned cars .
I very much hope that the top drivers did not repaint the spring to confuse opponents.
Rigidity of the wheel and tire are not taken into account.
It is mechanical calculation based on the stiffness of springs indicated in setup, shocks position and suspension geometry of the mentioned cars .
I very much hope that the top drivers did not repaint the spring to confuse opponents
.Rigidity of the wheel and tire are not taken into account.
11-14-2011, 02:14 PM
#846
Tech Fanatic
Both cars gave me almost identical numbers and I have suggested that it was enough.
11-14-2011, 02:20 PM
#847
One last question, does this calculation take into account rollbar stiffness as well? Thanks
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
#848
Tech Initiate
On the heat shrink issue can Oleg just let us know if this is advisable. It is the route I took in the end so that I could continue racing but didnt know if these parts were supposed to give way under impact to protect the rest of the drive shaft ???
Looking forward to seeing hana166 Car go round the track as the set up is VERY different to mine so will be good to see what difference it makes on the track
11-14-2011, 11:42 PM
#849
Missing parts
Hi Oleg...I received my kit today and I'm missing ST16 (U Joint Cross x4), the kit only came with 2x ST16 which is for the rear Universal. Please send me the parts ASAP as i was hoping to race it this weekend. pls let me know... email me at [email protected]
thanks
thanks
11-15-2011, 12:40 AM
#850
Hi Oleg...I received my kit today and I'm missing ST16 (U Joint Cross x4), the kit only came with 2x ST16 which is for the rear Universal. Please send me the parts ASAP as i was hoping to race it this weekend. pls let me know... email me at [email protected]
thanks
thanks
Just like ddd2k I am missing the same parts in my kit. Only 2 are in the kit yet a total of 6 ST16's are needed ! I'll email you about it and hopefully you can send the parts as soon as possible.
Thanks
11-15-2011, 02:51 AM
#851
Tech Fanatic
Sorry for missing ST16.
We have several orders with the same mistake.
The reason of this mistake was discovered and been removed already.
We are sending additional parcels now.
We have several orders with the same mistake.
The reason of this mistake was discovered and been removed already.
We are sending additional parcels now.
11-15-2011, 03:50 PM
#853
After some tiny adjustments the A700 was within 1/10th average of my T3 11 which is my fave car of all time..outright speed for 1 lap 1/10 faster..and the car is not even set up to my liking. It has great manners. Looking forward to exploring the potential this winter. Its definitely not the car for the mechanically inexperienced though.
Car corners very flat and inspires confidence. Extremely precise steering.
BIG thanks to Oleg. Not just for giving us something different, but something different which really works.
Car corners very flat and inspires confidence. Extremely precise steering.
BIG thanks to Oleg. Not just for giving us something different, but something different which really works.
11-16-2011, 01:45 AM
#854
Tech Initiate
After some tiny adjustments the A700 was within 1/10th average of my T3 11 which is my fave car of all time..outright speed for 1 lap 1/10 faster..and the car is not even set up to my liking. It has great manners. Looking forward to exploring the potential this winter. Its definitely not the car for the mechanically inexperienced though.
Car corners very flat and inspires confidence. Extremely precise steering.
BIG thanks to Oleg. Not just for giving us something different, but something different which really works.
Car corners very flat and inspires confidence. Extremely precise steering.
BIG thanks to Oleg. Not just for giving us something different, but something different which really works.
Im not familiar with the set up you ended with but did you run with Roll Bars in the end ??
11-16-2011, 01:45 AM
#855
Tech Initiate
Guys
Does anyone one happen to have the turnbuckle lengths to hand? I want to order up some Lunsford items today at work and thought the lengths were in the manual.
Thanks in advance.
Mark.
Does anyone one happen to have the turnbuckle lengths to hand? I want to order up some Lunsford items today at work and thought the lengths were in the manual.
Thanks in advance.
Mark.