Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
#3436
I had my first outing this weekend at the nationals (Pro-Stock 13.5 blinky)
During practice, on used tires, i could almost go the pace of the fastest guys(+0.2-+.3 sec), but with new handout tires, my car had just not enough traction (about 0.6 sec slower).The race was affected by some rain, track dried up, afterwards i was just off the pace (about 0.6 sec slower than leaders). I had .5 shims under rear lower arms and i'm still using AM26. Is AM06S a must have to get the lowest possible roll center, i see it on almost all setup sheets, most often with 0mm under arms. Any other hints? THX
During practice, on used tires, i could almost go the pace of the fastest guys(+0.2-+.3 sec), but with new handout tires, my car had just not enough traction (about 0.6 sec slower).The race was affected by some rain, track dried up, afterwards i was just off the pace (about 0.6 sec slower than leaders). I had .5 shims under rear lower arms and i'm still using AM26. Is AM06S a must have to get the lowest possible roll center, i see it on almost all setup sheets, most often with 0mm under arms. Any other hints? THX
#3437
Tech Fanatic
The additional tip for the further lowering of the roll center - removing (grinding) 0,5mm of material from the foot face of the lower AT21 balls. This tip is indicated as AT21S in the setups ( for example in the latest setup from Dominic Vogl ).
#3438
@Oleg
Thanks for your quick reply.
So you think i'm working in the right direction to cure the traction issues?
Just double checking...
THX
Thanks for your quick reply.
So you think i'm working in the right direction to cure the traction issues?
Just double checking...
THX
#3440
AM06S + 0mm under arms provide the lowest possible roll center and also the possibility of the increased camber gain at the moderate low roll center.
The additional tip for the further lowering of the roll center - removing (grinding) 0,5mm of material from the foot face of the lower AT21 balls. This tip is indicated as AT21S in the setups ( for example in the latest setup from Dominic Vogl ).
The additional tip for the further lowering of the roll center - removing (grinding) 0,5mm of material from the foot face of the lower AT21 balls. This tip is indicated as AT21S in the setups ( for example in the latest setup from Dominic Vogl ).
#3441
Tech Regular
I have run the car with and without am11 and haven't had any rubbing.
#3442
Shaft flex
There's a ball bearing guide that keeps it from flexing to the left and down.
#3443
Tech Fanatic
My current point of view: we should keep the inner lower balls of A700 suspension as low as possible as we can easy transform it either to very low roll center or to the additional camber gain.
#3444
If you run the center driveshaft guide it should prevent deflection. I have not issues of space or rub issues with a ORCA power cap directly mounted under the driveshaft.
#3445
I figured the guide would keep it from flexing, just wanted to make sure. Thanks guys!
#3446
R/C Tech Elite Member
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Dawson shared with me his method --
1. Using a long screw, drive the screw through the top of the ball
2. Using a dremel with sanding disk trim the excess metal off the top of the ball from step 1 until appears smooth
3. Measure that balls height using a caliper.
4. With the screw inserted through the new hole at the top of the ball, start grinding the hex bottom of the at21. Continue to measure the ball height to only remove 0.5mm.
5. Always repeat the measurements of step 3 for each ball as their overall heights will be slightly different after breaking through the ball top.
Does anyone have a better method to make a at21s??
#3448
And just so everyone is clear -- this requires the "hand making" of the at21s by grinding 0.5mm off the bottom of the at21 balls.
Dawson shared with me his method --
1. Using a long screw, drive the screw through the top of the ball
2. Using a dremel with sanding disk trim the excess metal off the top of the ball from step 1 until appears smooth
3. Measure that balls height using a caliper.
4. With the screw inserted through the new hole at the top of the ball, start grinding the hex bottom of the at21. Continue to measure the ball height to only remove 0.5mm.
5. Always repeat the measurements of step 3 for each ball as their overall heights will be slightly different after breaking through the ball top.
Does anyone have a better method to make a at21s??
Dawson shared with me his method --
1. Using a long screw, drive the screw through the top of the ball
2. Using a dremel with sanding disk trim the excess metal off the top of the ball from step 1 until appears smooth
3. Measure that balls height using a caliper.
4. With the screw inserted through the new hole at the top of the ball, start grinding the hex bottom of the at21. Continue to measure the ball height to only remove 0.5mm.
5. Always repeat the measurements of step 3 for each ball as their overall heights will be slightly different after breaking through the ball top.
Does anyone have a better method to make a at21s??
I bought a carbide counterbore, used a 3mm drill blank as a guide and set depth stop to deepen the recesses from 0.5mm to 1mm. So I can just carry on using the standard AT21. Just ripped off the wishbones and bulkheads to do the job. Good if you know anyone with access to a workshop as it takes 5 mins to set up and about a minute to do a plate. If I can find the time I might be able to do a handful for others.
Last edited by hana166; 10-11-2013 at 10:48 PM.
#3450
Tech Initiate
Hello, have someone heard about a program called rc crew chief?