Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
#1187
Tech Regular
ran my car for the first time today using the laptev ats setup.
Initial impressions are incredibly positive, 2/10ths quicker than I had managed with my t'12 earlier in the day
As the car is totally new to me, I'm pretty stuck on what to do to get the car to go a bit quicker, I could however do with a tad more steering.
I'm using ride 25 tyres, i reduced the front toe out to around 1 degree and also reduced the front width back to standard, other than that it was as in the setup, any suggestions??
Initial impressions are incredibly positive, 2/10ths quicker than I had managed with my t'12 earlier in the day
As the car is totally new to me, I'm pretty stuck on what to do to get the car to go a bit quicker, I could however do with a tad more steering.
I'm using ride 25 tyres, i reduced the front toe out to around 1 degree and also reduced the front width back to standard, other than that it was as in the setup, any suggestions??
#1188
Tech Fanatic
Hi guys,
Thanks for the feedback. Please find attached my START and END setup sheets from this past Monday. I had cut the top deck on my 3rd outing right after my first qual.
Starting setup
Attachment 854206
Final setup (much better but still loose in the rear)
Attachment 854209
Thanks for the feedback. Please find attached my START and END setup sheets from this past Monday. I had cut the top deck on my 3rd outing right after my first qual.
Starting setup
Attachment 854206
Final setup (much better but still loose in the rear)
Attachment 854209
At this case your suspension stiffness is much higher than recommended (front and rear).
If your actual SRS/RHS ARR is II then rear stiffness is too low.
#1189
Tech Fanatic
ran my car for the first time today using the laptev ats setup.
Initial impressions are incredibly positive, 2/10ths quicker than I had managed with my t'12 earlier in the day
As the car is totally new to me, I'm pretty stuck on what to do to get the car to go a bit quicker, I could however do with a tad more steering.
I'm using ride 25 tyres, i reduced the front toe out to around 1 degree and also reduced the front width back to standard, other than that it was as in the setup, any suggestions??
Initial impressions are incredibly positive, 2/10ths quicker than I had managed with my t'12 earlier in the day
As the car is totally new to me, I'm pretty stuck on what to do to get the car to go a bit quicker, I could however do with a tad more steering.
I'm using ride 25 tyres, i reduced the front toe out to around 1 degree and also reduced the front width back to standard, other than that it was as in the setup, any suggestions??
Sometimes 2.5 deg rear toe is better also.
#1190
Finished my build yesterday, this kit has amazing parts fit/quality.
Get my first run with it tomorrow! I'll be trying to get a similar feel to my 417.
Thanks Oleg for such a great kit, I can't wait to see how it compares to my current fast lap/6 Minute run !
Get my first run with it tomorrow! I'll be trying to get a similar feel to my 417.
Thanks Oleg for such a great kit, I can't wait to see how it compares to my current fast lap/6 Minute run !
#1191
Tech Fanatic
Steve,
Concerning upper arms length for any setup - I need more time to calculate it.
But all estimates are always approximate.
The final adjustment - only at the setup station.
Concerning upper arms length for any setup - I need more time to calculate it.
But all estimates are always approximate.
The final adjustment - only at the setup station.
#1192
Okay no worries, I'll have to borrow a friends for the time being, until I can pick one up.
thanks for getting back to me
thanks for getting back to me
#1193
Tech Master
iTrader: (37)
BTW are folks running as much as 2* toe out in the front? If it'll help prevent traction roll I'm willing to try it out. Thanks Tbone, Oleg, and everyone!!!
#1194
Tech Champion
iTrader: (4)
Well, my car is complete, and I have to say, it's been a top notch and quality build. All the fit and finish is excellent, and any concerns I've had about some of the smaller parts (driveshaft clips etc) have been completely removed. Even the plastic quality is great, the ball cups being way easier to thread than some 3Racing ones I've recently had to do.
I've spent the last few evenings exploring/fiddling with how to adjust the settings, as well as working out a methodology of what to adjust first.. the two top links are new to me, but at the moment I'm going with setting camber first, then setting castor. Then setting toe-in when the other settings are sorted. Shocks wise, A first, then B.. And I've also managed to get my head round quickly assesing if a shock setting is soft or hard from the numbers...
At the moment, I've built the car up with Ivan's ATS settings, mainly as the track I'm currently running my 417 ATS setting is working quite well, although I might need to change the spring and damping rate a little. Won't be able to get it ontrack for at least a week though, as I'm still waiting on some electrics to arrive.
Can't wait to try it, and start working through a load of options!
Cheers
Ed
I've spent the last few evenings exploring/fiddling with how to adjust the settings, as well as working out a methodology of what to adjust first.. the two top links are new to me, but at the moment I'm going with setting camber first, then setting castor. Then setting toe-in when the other settings are sorted. Shocks wise, A first, then B.. And I've also managed to get my head round quickly assesing if a shock setting is soft or hard from the numbers...
At the moment, I've built the car up with Ivan's ATS settings, mainly as the track I'm currently running my 417 ATS setting is working quite well, although I might need to change the spring and damping rate a little. Won't be able to get it ontrack for at least a week though, as I'm still waiting on some electrics to arrive.
Can't wait to try it, and start working through a load of options!
Cheers
Ed
#1195
Well, my car is complete, and I have to say, it's been a top notch and quality build. All the fit and finish is excellent, and any concerns I've had about some of the smaller parts (driveshaft clips etc) have been completely removed. Even the plastic quality is great, the ball cups being way easier to thread than some 3Racing ones I've recently had to do.
I've spent the last few evenings exploring/fiddling with how to adjust the settings, as well as working out a methodology of what to adjust first.. the two top links are new to me, but at the moment I'm going with setting camber first, then setting castor. Then setting toe-in when the other settings are sorted. Shocks wise, A first, then B.. And I've also managed to get my head round quickly assesing if a shock setting is soft or hard from the numbers...
At the moment, I've built the car up with Ivan's ATS settings, mainly as the track I'm currently running my 417 ATS setting is working quite well, although I might need to change the spring and damping rate a little. Won't be able to get it ontrack for at least a week though, as I'm still waiting on some electrics to arrive.
Can't wait to try it, and start working through a load of options!
Cheers
Ed
I've spent the last few evenings exploring/fiddling with how to adjust the settings, as well as working out a methodology of what to adjust first.. the two top links are new to me, but at the moment I'm going with setting camber first, then setting castor. Then setting toe-in when the other settings are sorted. Shocks wise, A first, then B.. And I've also managed to get my head round quickly assesing if a shock setting is soft or hard from the numbers...
At the moment, I've built the car up with Ivan's ATS settings, mainly as the track I'm currently running my 417 ATS setting is working quite well, although I might need to change the spring and damping rate a little. Won't be able to get it ontrack for at least a week though, as I'm still waiting on some electrics to arrive.
Can't wait to try it, and start working through a load of options!
Cheers
Ed
Time to start a new section of your website!
#1197
Happy New Year to all my A700 mates !
I'm wishing you all Awesome cornerspeed and all the active caster you can handle !!!
Jake D.
I'm wishing you all Awesome cornerspeed and all the active caster you can handle !!!
Jake D.
#1198
Happy New Year to all the members of this forum. Looking forward to big strides from the Awesomatrix camp. Thanks to Oleg and team for delivering a top tier product. Cheers!
#1199
Well, I had my first outing with the A700 yesterday, and all I can say is WOW!
I started off with Tom Maquel's high traction carpet setup, except I ran the dampers with the symmetrical setting, 1.3mm sway bar on the front and 1.2mm in the rear, the battery in the R1 position, and 800cst in the gear diff. Within the first battery pack in practice, I was within 2 tenths of my fast lap on this layout that I had set with my 417. Near the end of practice, I was feeling more comfortable with the car, but made a big mistake and broke a ball cup (P01). I also made an error in a fairly high speed chicane and the car tumbled end over end, and was still fine (some setting had been tweaked, but nothing broke).
In my first qualifier, the car felt really good. I managed to beat both my personal records (best 6 min race and fast lap), and managed to get TQ by a second which at our local track isn't easy. Racing against top drivers like Martin Crisp (team Serpent), and Andrew Hardman (many sponsors, although he wasn't there this week). In the final, Martin managed to get in front of me on the 3rd corner and hold me off, but I'm really impressed that I was able to stay as close as I did to him.
Here's a video of the main (my car is orange/blue/white)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeNbNmBgkc
With the same Tekin RS settings, motor timing, and gearing as I ran in my 417 (coming off at 170-180*F), the motor was coming off closer to 140-150 thanks to the super efficient drive-train. It was also quieter then I expected based on prior experiences with shaft drive cars.
For minimum weight we run 1380 grams, and the car out of the box with my electronics (picture below)and the body, it weighed 1325. It was nice to be able to add all the weight to the center line of the car under the shaft.
All in all, a very promising first outing with the car. Next week I plan on trying some thicker oil in the gear diff (1000cst), running with less rear toe (2.5*), and some different shock settings (although I was very happy with the setup today, I just want to get a better idea on how to use these dampers over the conventional TC dampers). Can't wait to get back on the track with this car!
I started off with Tom Maquel's high traction carpet setup, except I ran the dampers with the symmetrical setting, 1.3mm sway bar on the front and 1.2mm in the rear, the battery in the R1 position, and 800cst in the gear diff. Within the first battery pack in practice, I was within 2 tenths of my fast lap on this layout that I had set with my 417. Near the end of practice, I was feeling more comfortable with the car, but made a big mistake and broke a ball cup (P01). I also made an error in a fairly high speed chicane and the car tumbled end over end, and was still fine (some setting had been tweaked, but nothing broke).
In my first qualifier, the car felt really good. I managed to beat both my personal records (best 6 min race and fast lap), and managed to get TQ by a second which at our local track isn't easy. Racing against top drivers like Martin Crisp (team Serpent), and Andrew Hardman (many sponsors, although he wasn't there this week). In the final, Martin managed to get in front of me on the 3rd corner and hold me off, but I'm really impressed that I was able to stay as close as I did to him.
Here's a video of the main (my car is orange/blue/white)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeNbNmBgkc
With the same Tekin RS settings, motor timing, and gearing as I ran in my 417 (coming off at 170-180*F), the motor was coming off closer to 140-150 thanks to the super efficient drive-train. It was also quieter then I expected based on prior experiences with shaft drive cars.
For minimum weight we run 1380 grams, and the car out of the box with my electronics (picture below)and the body, it weighed 1325. It was nice to be able to add all the weight to the center line of the car under the shaft.
All in all, a very promising first outing with the car. Next week I plan on trying some thicker oil in the gear diff (1000cst), running with less rear toe (2.5*), and some different shock settings (although I was very happy with the setup today, I just want to get a better idea on how to use these dampers over the conventional TC dampers). Can't wait to get back on the track with this car!
Last edited by speedyfowler; 01-01-2012 at 01:28 PM. Reason: forgot to mention different battery position
#1200
Tech Fanatic
Great Thanks to all current owners of A700!
It is with you we can evolve now.
Happy New Year!
It is with you we can evolve now.
Happy New Year!