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Old 01-05-2015, 05:36 AM
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if you can explain what you'd like the car to do better -- along w/ posting the setup Tony we will be able to help you.

i'll be putting together one of my Evo kits for USVTA at Snowbirds later this month...
When building the shocks the instructions (step 9 finished) shows two lefts and two rights. The problem is if I build it like that I have to criss cross the shocks to get them in the car. Is this wrong because I have a L6 on the front right side of the car and R6 on the left hand side???? Are the instructions wrong or am I and will just swapping the dampers fix this ? Other than that I think just working with the droop and spring rate will get the car to where I want it to be...Thanks for the help.
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No, it is correct. It is like that so that if you want to run asymmetric damping, the dampers will all have the soft stroke for compression.
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Hi all

Im new to this forum and have pre ordered the new A700 Evo IIC. Until now i drive conventional TC.
Never seen the car live but im very interested to setup this car fo an indoor asphalt track with foam tire.

To have a basic setup can anyone help me to setup the car basically for foam tire? The track are very tight and technical. Only a few corner like 180 degrees and one long corner. The driving is like full brake and full power so i need good initial steering and a planted rear to bring the power to the straight.

I planned to use the basic setup but if anyone have recommendations for foam tire and very tight track it would be help to start with this new journey.

Thank you for your support
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Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
i'll be putting together one of my Evo kits for USVTA at Snowbirds later this month...
The use of an EVO in USVTA kinda seems contrary to the spirit of that class... but hey, why not... anything goes these days.

Now, on the other hand - a mod-caliber driver such as yourself running USVTA... that's just a shame!
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Mod caliber... Lol
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Mike do you have any build tips for the new dampers?
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Mike do you have any build tips for the new dampers?
goto http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/parts.html
click on Rebuildable Damper Set
http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html
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Mike do you have any build tips for the new dampers?
Here's instructions on the new D2 damper build Mike put together.

http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html

Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.

2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.


So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.

I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
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Here's instructions on the new D2 damper build Mike put together.

http://www.awesomatixusa.com/p/rebuildable-damper.html

Tips for building
1. Instead of 3 .1mm spacers on the top of the B85 bearing, place 1 .1mm on top of the O ring OR15 and 1 .1mm shim on top of the B85 bearing. This will insure the bearing will turn without binding on the o-ring and apply even pressure on the o-ring which should provide a better seal.

2. You must sand the end (all sides) of SPR02 that inserts into the slot of AT41 as the tolerance is very tight and it won't assembly very easily.


So far I think 350, 425, 500, 575 CST have been tested. I personally feel 500 cst has the closest feel to original friction disk dampers.

I'm running 575 in Mod and like the feel with a F/R 3/2mm damper setting . My son Kyle was running 13.5 this past weekend, he started with 475 but felt the car was loosing some mid corner steering and felt lazy. He tried various dampening settings nothing brought it back to where it was with the original dampers. So he went to 350 and the same damper settings he's been running F/R 3/1 and the car was back to how he liked the feel and the lap times showed it.
I gather from Kyle going down to 375 that either the dampers he had been running had gone soft or the initial thought that the DL/R6 dampers were fillled with 500 is not correct?
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I gather from Kyle going down to 375 that either the dampers he had been running had gone soft or the initial thought that the DL/R6 dampers were fillled with 500 is not correct?
Your first guess is more accurate. The dampers in his car had gone soft so his setup worked better with lighter oil.
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Larry Fairtrace and I tried a few setups this weekend. From the dampener perspective an "A" gap of 2.0 seemed to work well. "B" gaps varied from 0 to 1.

I ran Evo II "kit" dampers. Larry ran D2 dampers with Associated 40WT (500cst)
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The latest proven setups from our EU team drivers are here.

Max Machler was fast ( 2-nd place against very fast German drivers) during latest MCSS Open 2015 race in Germany with his setup.

The base carpet setup has been tested by Viljami Kutvonen in Finland.
It was very good and easy to drive according to Viljami report.
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Mike I built both cars and have the 84 pkg. with two bearings left over in both kits. Did I miss something while building these cars?
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Mike I built both cars and have the 84 pkg. with two bearings left over in both kits. Did I miss something while building these cars?
probably not. those kits were Evo to L 'tear downs' to give you the kit you wanted, based upon what was available........
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