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Old 11-05-2008, 07:35 AM   #1
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I am at the point in my build where I need to put together the steering and camber tunbucles for the TC4.

Try as I might, I cannot put these together and I need to do 6 of these Does anyone have a secret for threading the rod into the ball cap??
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:37 AM   #2
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i use needle nose pliers to hold the turnbuckle (wrap paper around the turnbuckle first, seems to add grip and doesnt scratch it)..
then use my fingers to turn the ball cap onto the threaded bit.

....but its not a secret
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Old 11-05-2008, 07:42 AM   #3
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back in the Day i used to start each ball cut with a 4/40 tap or use one of the steel screws that came with the kit,

also you need to remember that one end will thread on clockwise and the the other end will be counter clock wise
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cover the threads on the turnbuckle with ball diff grease (vaseline). it makes turning it alot easier. after doing my TA05 I had bruised fingers...
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Many people forget that one side is threaded backwards, so keep that in mind.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:15 AM   #6
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DOOOOOH !!!!

The threading backwards part........ got it thanks
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DOOOOOH !!!!

The threading backwards part........ got it thanks
I saw that comming...
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Tamiya make a really nice tool that you put the ball cup into, hold the turnbuckle in and turnbuckle wrench (or pliers with paper) and and turn the tool, easy as pie, but might not fit all ball cups...

not sure of the part number but thought it was a wheel wrench when i ordered it, now it is most useful...
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Tamiya make a really nice tool that you put the ball cup into, hold the turnbuckle in and turnbuckle wrench (or pliers with paper) and and turn the tool, easy as pie, but might not fit all ball cups...

not sure of the part number but thought it was a wheel wrench when i ordered it, now it is most useful...
the wheel spanner i got with my firestorm (generic HPI one) has a slot for a turnbuckle on one side.
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Find a turnbuckle tool, Racers Edge makes/made one.......I know Tamiya made one at some point.

When I was a kid, we used bar soap on the threads, as it seemed to act as a cutting agent and make them thread easier. Over time, companies have released thread cutting lubes.

You can in theory tap them, but you need to remember, one side threads backwards, so you need to tap it in in reverse or you will be buying a new ball cup.

In 20 years of racing, there is nothing I hate more than building turnbuckles......makes my hands hurt and I hate it. I remember racing at a TC race a few years back. I had built most of the car myself and all I had left was the turnbuckles.........I agreed to build everyones batteries for the weekend if someone did my turnbuckles, so 30+ packs later.....I had a built set of turnbuckles! That's how much I hate them......

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I use an electric drill. If you are careful you can put the ball cups in the drill and hold the turnbuckle with pliers. For the left hand end you just reverse the drill. A little light oil helps too.
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THE BIGGEST SECRET IS:

Take a body hole reamer and chamfer the hole to be threaded just a little. This creates a forcing cone to center the threads as they are first starting out.

That is the simple trick.

For quickly threading the link, I normally use some cheap $1.00 small adjustible cresent wrenches. I like the drill trick, and I might try that ould sometime. For me the included turnbuckle wrenches seem to wander. The reason why the are tiny is because they need to fit into tight spaces, and secondly makes them cheap!
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dont use a bottom tap for this because the thread will be clearance on the thread which will be too loose, so use the first tap only ie the heavily tapered one. as for a left hand tap, good luck getting one easily!
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