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Old 10-30-2009, 08:17 AM   #2026
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What kind of steering servo are you guys running in the 009, looking to finish up by build, thats the last piece i need to get it on the carpet and start testing>>>
I fun a futaba 9551... bitchen lowpro, digital, all metal gear servo. Fair price too.
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What kind of steering servo are you guys running in the 009, looking to finish up by build, thats the last piece i need to get it on the carpet and start testing>>>
The Futaba 9551 or KO 2413 seem to be popular. They are both low profile.
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Disect away! It still is borderline traction rolling, it needs to be driven very smoothly to prevent traction rolls. It is, however, pretty fast. I got within .1 second of Jeremy's lap record.
Why in the world are you running that stiff of a spring with rubber tires? When I talked with Pauly he said a stiff spring can make traction rolls worse. I would think you would want to go down to nothing higher than a 20 on the front and around a 15 on the rear.

Does the car traction roll right away or does it roll after awhile?
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35 LB front springs
I dont think we ever went over 17.5 lb fronts at the Novak and thats a high traction race
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RC8 here (old account)

Just thought I needed to try something cause nothing else was working, it seemed to help a bit.

Gonna try wider front track next.

It's hard to tell where exactly it's traction rolling, I think it is mid corner.

Would too much rear toe cause this problem?

Oh, does anybody know what the "c" rated springs are for lbs/in?
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:02 PM   #2031
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This is a very good set-up on high grip. This pretty much my starting set-up everywhere I go.

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...3&setup=t2_008
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Oh, does anybody know what the "c" rated springs are for lbs/in?
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When I talked with Pauly he said a stiff spring can make traction rolls worse.
Hmmm...so which is it, I don't have the Xray bible in front of me. I would think stiffer spring would produce less body roll, isn't that what you would want if you are traction rolling?

Thanks for the spring chart, nice.
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Hmmm...so which is it, I don't have the Xray bible in front of me. I would think stiffer spring would produce less body roll, isn't that what you would want if you are traction rolling?

Thanks for the spring chart, nice.
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A stiffer spring will not the let the car roll/lean. Once your tires grip the car has no place to go but on its lid. A softer spring will allow the car to roll as the tire grips.
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i have a problem. ive been trying to get my rear end softer and for some reason i just can't get it done. ive tried softer springs and thinner shock oil. I thought i may have binding in the suspension and i didn't.I'm using the standard plastic shocks w/3 hole pistons, yellow springs. mounted in the third hole from the top on the shock tower.any help is greatly appreciated
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Hmmm...so which is it, I don't have the Xray bible in front of me. I would think stiffer spring would produce less body roll, isn't that what you would want if you are traction rolling?

Thanks for the spring chart, nice.
If it traction rolls early, you're too stiff. If it traction rolls late, you're to soft. If you pull the throttle and it just flips over, you're... screwed


For early just go softer spring, for late roll try a heavier bar first, then spring. If you're on foam glue the outside edges, if you're on rubber, stop putting compound on the outside fronts. If you roll mid turn... well... I usually get the rear to slide a bit more... but thats me.
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I have a Brand new, Unassembled, Orange T2'009 rubber kit for sale for $425 shipped. I have only sealed the chassis and shock tower edges with CA.

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i have a problem. ive been trying to get my rear end softer and for some reason i just can't get it done. ive tried softer springs and thinner shock oil. I thought i may have binding in the suspension and i didn't.I'm using the standard plastic shocks w/3 hole pistons, yellow springs. mounted in the third hole from the top on the shock tower.any help is greatly appreciated
WHat makes you think it isn't already getting softer?
What are you trying to achieve?

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Well, things are looking up. I glued the sidewalls of my tires, widened the track front and rear about 1mm/side and I am now using the Xray front brace. It bolts to the front of the chassis to stiffen it up I think.

Still turning a few 11.0s, we will see what happens tomorrow if and when traction comes up.
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