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Old 12-22-2016, 10:40 PM
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Hola Marcos!

I do love me a Tamiya on tarmac, can't argue with how Tamiya's have worked for me over the years on the black tops.

I also do love me my Xray on carpet.
My Tamiya had me hatin carpet.
Kinda still do hate carpet but at least the Xray let's me drive it around instead of pushing or flipping my Tamiyas around.
F103 exempt from that last statement.
Wanna race 200mm on foam?
Bring it! Ive got one.

Not much of a travelin racer but thanks for the invite amigo.
I agree... Remember trying to make the F104 Pro work at TQ with the B sponge tires? Hay-Hay-Hay!

Good memories. Maybe I'll give the Xray a go on carpet? Cheers to you Mr F-1 TCS Champion - here is a photo to remember the good old F103 days.

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Old 12-23-2016, 04:32 AM
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Would the extra 3mm offset Exotek wheels help the traction rolling issue on carpet on a Tamiya?

All of my local clubs run grey carpet due to them being daily setup/teardown tracks.
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Originally Posted by ErikO
Would the extra 3mm offset Exotek wheels help the traction rolling issue on carpet on a Tamiya?

All of my local clubs run grey carpet due to them being daily setup/teardown tracks.
The offset (wide) is not where the problem is (I think, me be wrong) I use soft springs (yes soft) and add a fine line of CA on the outside of the front tires, start slow don't put too much, test, and if still rolling ad more toward the top of the sides.
works pretty good in combo with adjusting the Caster if you have Exoteck front arms.

http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ...FQx7fgodW_IAwg

Hope this helps...

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Old 12-23-2016, 11:36 AM
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I've had my Tamiya's really good, not pushing and not flipping but right on the edge and as confirmed by my good buddy Mr. King, that's about as fast as you can go.
Any faster, it's flippin and any more stable it's pushin.

Bummer was that at that point it was still not competitive.
I could race it but not challenge a top spot.

Enter Mr Lightfoot with his new at the time 15 XRAY.
Test drive for about 5 or ten laps and smoked my Tamiya times and those times were immediately competive.
So I bought one and went racing with instant good results

As far as 200mm class.
Pretty damn sure if 4 or 5 show up, they'll take your money and let you race.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA
Enter Mr Lightfoot with his new at the time 15 XRAY.
Test drive for about 5 or ten laps and smoked my Tamiya times and those times were immediately competive.
So I bought one and went racing with instant good results
Must be a carpet thing... I've never seen an out-of-the-box XRay turn up at any asphalt track and "smoke" anything. In fact from what I have observed and learnt from speaking to people running them is they usually start out under-steering like a bitch but I guess thats still better than doing loops every corner.

However I do have agree that, for the most part, Tamiya has been left behind a bit in the F1 stakes but how much of that is down to the actual cars or all the good drivers switching, or being snapped up by the other brands, is harder to tell. In some places (like Australia) there has always been a unwarranted avoidance of Tamiya products so almost ANYTHING else is preferable. Also, the basic F104 platform is very old now so really its like comparing an old 486 CPU with a modern Dual Core etc.

IMO the TRF102 on asphalt, with Exotek arms and a aftermarket t-bar (and with a quality driver) is a match for anything currently on the market. On carpet it will struggle, but the car was expressly designed for asphalt and low grip surfaces so if you are running it on carpet - well you asked for it . Yes they are less adjustable than some of the other brands but a few aftermarket parts takes care of that.
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Originally Posted by ShadowAu
Must be a carpet thing... I've never seen an out-of-the-box XRay turn up at any asphalt track and "smoke" anything. In fact from what I have observed and learnt from speaking to people running them is they usually start out under-steering like a bitch but I guess thats still better than doing loops every corner.

However I do have agree that, for the most part, Tamiya has been left behind a bit in the F1 stakes but how much of that is down to the actual cars or all the good drivers switching, or being snapped up by the other brands, is harder to tell. In some places (like Australia) there has always been a unwarranted avoidance of Tamiya products so almost ANYTHING else is preferable. Also, the basic F104 platform is very old now so really its like comparing an old 486 CPU with a modern Dual Core etc.

IMO the TRF102 on asphalt, with Exotek arms and a aftermarket t-bar (and with a quality driver) is a match for anything currently on the market. On carpet it will struggle, but the car was expressly designed for asphalt and low grip surfaces so if you are running it on carpet - well you asked for it . Yes they are less adjustable than some of the other brands but a few aftermarket parts takes care of that.
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Originally Posted by ErikO
After reading through much of the recent information, I'd like a bit of an update.

Who has been running the Protoform wings, and how do they compare to the Montech/X-Ray wings for durability and performance?

I'm aquiring a F104V2 chassis soon and will need to purchase the body and wings. Leaning towards the Protoform F1-13 body at this point but I have no idea what wings to get.
If you are going to run the v2, and are not running TCS upgrade to the Exotek Flex chassis and damper mount, whole different car that works everywhere, carpet, tarmac, etc.
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Originally Posted by HeliYogi
Yes indeed!
I took my TRF 102 fresh from the TCS Nats and ran it on the carpet(new CRC black) and it was not bad. It wasn't as "in" the track as the F1R3 with Aluminum chassis and Fenix geardiff, but it was ok. I also have a Fenix Mistral with the aluminum chassis with a few minor parts upgrades and it works really well on black carpet. Anxious to try the gear diff in the Mistral. Here are a couple of shots of the cars.


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Yep, I was talkin bout carpet, the old gray shit when I mentioned the XRAY vs my Tamiyas.

Asphalt is a complete other story.

The TRF 102 on Tamiya's asphalt is very difficult to beat, unless of course you still have a very dialed in F104 F60 base kit with X1 conversion that still rivals the lap times.

I've never had to give the XRAY a try on asphalt but I've been told it's worth a go.
Maybe someday but til my Tamiyas struggle, no real need.
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I got a phone call the first time my buddy saw an xray go around our asphalt track a couple years ago, he says " it looks like a touring car out there". I didn't see it but he was impressed. This was a car straight out of the box. They can't be all that bad.

None the less, the trf102 is definitely good. T bar cars always work well outside. The 104 wgp and 104x1 are right there too. Of course adding Exotek parts helps a lot. One thing that is awesome is the trf carbon front end with the exotek upper arms. You have to make a mount for the camber link but it's game on.

On carpet, after watching a lot of races, its the CRC car. The xray is right there but the crc car always looks good no matter who is driving. I have had both and the crc take less effort to go fast with. Vbc, roche etc. all look good too, but Crc definitely hit on something with their car.
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Originally Posted by robk
I got a phone call the first time my buddy saw an xray go around our asphalt track a couple years ago, he says " it looks like a touring car out there". I didn't see it but he was impressed. This was a car straight out of the box. They can't be all that bad.

None the less, the trf102 is definitely good. T bar cars always work well outside. The 104 wgp and 104x1 are right there too. Of course adding Exotek parts helps a lot. One thing that is awesome is the trf carbon front end with the exotek upper arms. You have to make a mount for the camber link but it's game on.

On carpet, after watching a lot of races, its the CRC car. The xray is right there but the crc car always looks good no matter who is driving. I have had both and the crc take less effort to go fast with. Vbc, roche etc. all look good too, but Crc definitely hit on something with their car.
The Roche car looked quite good at Stock wars. I think all of the current cars could be contenders on both surfaces with the right setup and driver.
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Time to make some nice Xmas presents! 😍😍😍 #TYPE6C #TYPE6R


I want a Williams shell, how do I order that specifically??
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The Roche car looked quite good at Stock wars. I think all of the current cars could be contenders on both surfaces with the right setup and driver.
Not to argue Robs points because he has driven just about everything. The X-ray and CRC chassis are good no doubt, but I think just about any chassis with the right setup, right tire prep, and a well practiced driver can go quick. I rigged up my WGP to run the battery transverse, and it made it a completely different car to drive.
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