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Old 03-18-2012, 07:23 PM
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Notice how the ROAR president is trying to dictate to everyone on this forum as to what is acceptable?!! As I said previously, ROAR thinks it's all-mighty in the rc world, and that the rest of us peons need to do as they say or else!! He and ROAR didn't start this thread or this whole forum for that matter; where do they think they get off telling us what is acceptable?!!
Well SteveP said accept it and move on.
It's unfortunate that most have as far as Roar races are concerned

Much ado about nothing.
A pretty in Pink/Purple car won a bowling trophy.

F1 guys see the Lotus as winning, and I'm sure that's good enough for the guy that put in the time on his kit
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:33 PM
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Well SteveP said accept it and move on
I won't accept it and move on just because ROAR says so!! I won't drink their "koolaide" either! Don't you get it RedBull?, that's exactly what they want us to do: just accept it and move on, so that they,ROAR, can continue to do business as usual. In other words they are telling me and others to shut up and not tell the truth, unless of course it's the ROAR approved version of the truth!! Not happening! You are just condoning what ROAR says and does by your statements.
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I had a car entered in the concourse (Lotus, gold wheels), and I must say that I was disappointed. I think if people actually had any idea how much work goes into F1 bodies, the judging would be different. We all know that you have to "build" an F1 body! Paint and decals could be it's own thread. But what are you gonna do? We know who should've won, but we can't let this discourage us from bringing realism back to R/C. F1 got it's foot back in the door nationally, now all we need to do is keep pushing forward. "R/C F1, keep it Real!" <----My new motto! (patent pending )
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:03 PM
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i have raced f1 cars since 94 and never once stepped into a hobby shop to do so, and or used there rules. We have always kept it in line with f1 as far as circuits, points, teams etc. I loved f1 growing up and when i saw the first f101 and f102 i have never looked back. I guess my point is that for some people and myself included scale is alot more fun!
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX View Post
F1 guys see the Lotus as winning, and I'm sure that's good enough for the guy that put in the time on his kit
Agreed...the Lotus should have won that. The winner's car is very nice and definitely good work...but a close look at the pic of the Lotus and to me it looks like the gold stripes are painted and not sticker...as someone who does a bit of airbrushing myself the stripes on that Lotus I would have a harder time doing then the fades...especially up around the airbox area.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:24 PM
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Thank you for your compliment eff one.

My very first slot car was a 1963 Marx Lotus F1 1/32(that's how far back I go), and my very first rc car was in 1987 and was a Tamiya Road Wizard which I painted up and decaled as Aryton Senna's JPS Lotus 97 and I have attended real F1 races at both Watkins Glen and Montreal. So, I have a life long love affair and intimate understanding and appreciation for F1; and that is why I'm so passionate about not allowing ANYONE, ROAR included, to screw up and ruin rc F1 the way so many other on-road classes have been ruined! So to those who want to just "look the other way" and try to keep everyone calm and quiet, and let the "run whatever I want" group sneak in the back door and take over the class, I say: Go race touring cars or 1/12 or 1/10 WGT pan cars; you'll be happier there!
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:52 PM
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My personal feelings about this topic is whilst I agree with the F1 should keep their realism, the racing part should not.

A plain example would be in my local race a few weeks back, there were 3-4 Ferrari fans and it was hard to make out which is the faster one or slower one.. Hahaha so you can imagine how difficult it is whether to give way or continue racing...

Maybe concourse criteria have 2 categories? Painted and F1 replica?

I remember last year the RCF1GP in Hong Kong had a F1 replica class... So it really depends on the organizing committee if they want to ruin it or promote it.
Sad but true.
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My collection of F1 cars and lemans
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:58 PM
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Wow, eff one, that's a pretty nice collection!!
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Your welcome to come race one of them anytime . Its arrive and drive in the blastf1 championship, i own all the cars and recruit all the drivers (my friends mostly).they pay for damages, tires and batteries i set up the championship.
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Well if I'm ever out Michigan way I just might do that! I live in Upstate New York.
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I wouldn't really call the HRT a "real" F1 car, lol
Don't concourse rules state the car must compete on track? That instantly eliminates the HRT's for 1:1 Concourse judging
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The concours class was F1/VTA/WorldGT together. They werent expecting as many people at the NATS to sign up at the track. But when you lump them all together like that, the flashy paint is going to get the attention. Sure the F1s looked more realistic than the WGTs, but so did the VTAs. Mario had a nice looking car and it won, TPhalen had a nice looking VTA and got 2nd. I say Kudos to both. Even the pink one
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We can take the positives from this race
Or we can focus on the negative

Roar actually followed modern F1 rules. 21.5 blinky, rubber tires, narrow cars, etc
They allowed new tech in for a one shot chance to compete. FGX

There were many entries that had realistic looking cars

There were winners & loosers, with plenty of drama included

That sounds like a good start to true F1 scale racing to me

With the two experimental classes F1 & VTA, it's clear that roar is listening to the critics, change takes time

Everything looks different from another point of view...
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Wow, it's almost as though I didn't say that I would have chosen a scale machine.

Regarding the way you choose to express your frustration, words like "stupid" and "travesty" are over the top in my opinion, and on these forums or anywhere else, I'm just as entitled to an opinion as anyone else. It's good to have the discussion, of course. Perhaps as a result of this, we can instruct the judges in the future to reward those that put more effort into scale appearance in these classes where scale is apparent, such as F1, VTA and ostensibly touring (although the bodies are getting ridiculously out of scale). I guess the question is, do you want to start right out of the gate with the "outrage" and insults that won't lead to any productive discussion, or do you want to approach it in a more reasonable manner that encourages "adult-level" conversation and resolution? I would choose the latter, but that's just me...

FYI, the judges were Steve M., the tech inspector from ROAR, Mike, the owner of the track, and Bob from Live RC. Although I TOTALLY AGREE AND WOULD HAVE SIDED WITH A CAR THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE OPINIONS VOICED HERE (just wanted to be sure nobody missed it this time) I respect that all the judges are experienced people with a lot of history in RC racing and they chose the cars they liked the best.

For those that want to turn this in a more positive direction, what would you change in the process to ensure that a scale machine is weighed more heavily than a good but still random paint scheme? I have my own ideas but I want to hear yours...
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