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Old 08-03-2020, 03:31 PM
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Greetings RC F1 runners...

I got back into the hobby back in January and the F1 class is beginning to take shape at my home track here in Virginia. That said, I have a bit of a quandary...

Im looking at getting an F1 classis when my tax refund gets in (I filed just before the later deadline) and the vast majority of the guys at the track have gotten the Exotek F1Ultra. That being said, the pricetag on that shocked me a bit given how much Im getting back this year. I saw a Tamiya F104 Pro II in the showcase at the track and liked the price on it. If I go with that I will be the only person running Tamiya at the track. If I go with the Exotek that many other people are running I will be able to get some help (and parts) from other racers but that price tag will make getting running gear a bit more difficult. Thoughts?
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Old 08-03-2020, 04:48 PM
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The 104 pro II car would not be competative against current generation cars. Most of the current gen cars are around the same price as the exotek race ready. A noteable exception being the CRC car @ $260. Indoors the crc is a proven winner with asphalt being their reported weakness. Personally I havent run one outdoors but the racers that have tried them locally looked cloes to the cars that claimed to be better and clearly better than the other cheaper models on track. If the budget allows I would still suggest getting the same car as your buddies, you're likely to have more fun raceing each other & sharing seutps than you would trying to tune your different ride.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:06 PM
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The newer CRC F1 works great. The faster guys down here run them. You want the rear wing not mounted on the rear pod (CRC, Serpent and Xray)
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:07 PM
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F104 pro ll will not be competitive.

In addition to the CRC, the Roche Evo 2 is $280 &a great car equal to x-ray. Even the USA spec Evo 1 is great and even cheaper. CRC and Roche are very close on carpet (my experience).
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:07 PM
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F104 pro ll will not be competitive.

In addition to the CRC, the Roche Evo 2 is $280 &a great car equal to x-ray. Even the USA spec Evo 1 is great and even cheaper. CRC and Roche are very close on carpet (my experience).
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:47 PM
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Soon available for the XRay 18-20 a LCG fan mount. Hopefully picking them up by friday. Also CRC LCG fan mounts now available.

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Old 08-03-2020, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BullFrog
Soon available for the XRay 19-20 a LCG fan mount. Hopefully picking them up by friday. Also CRC LCG fan mounts now available.
Note, the 2020 X1 already comes with a fan mount on the left side pod, the thing is, you have to run it with a track width of 190-188 mm and must be a standard 30X30 size
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:13 PM
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funny thing is my friend that runs xray and myself came up with this design. only you can mount your fan (30x30) anywhere on the rear pod.It might be done tommorrow evening.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:50 PM
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Just got my fan mounts in for the XRay. I've seen the XRay mount. Mine is better because you can mount the fan anywhere where the stock XRay is limited to two spots. You can send me your e-mail address for a picture of it mounted on the 18-20 cars.

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Old 08-07-2020, 11:12 PM
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Hey guys,

It's been a while since I've posted but I have a question about tires, I noticed on the previous page on the Fenix chassis that they were running the wide rear wheels and tires. I have a Serpent F110 SF2W which I love, but I'm all out of my arrowmax am-040813 and am-040912 supply. Has anyone got any idea what my options are for the wider wheels for that chassis? I can't seem to get any help from the Australian RC stores, and don't know enough about what's out there.

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Old 08-08-2020, 10:25 AM
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Hey guys, just a quick update...I've decided.against the F104 but someone posted a couple killer deals on XRay X1 rollers so I may be pulling the trigger on one soon as my check comes in
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:54 PM
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Both the Xray 18-20 versions, better with the 20 version for the rear wing set up.Or the new version of the CRC with the rear wing set-up. On the CRC you should get the narrow front plate and pivot balls.I have LCG fan mounts for both!
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Old 08-09-2020, 05:29 PM
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All fan mounts and fans worked great today at Beachline carpet track with no A/C!
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Does anyone have a good asphalt setup for a CRC F1 (16)? I tried mine first time on asphalt this weekend, and it was in a word, awful. ZERO rear grip to the point of undrivable and unable either use full throttle (even gradually on the straight), or even coast through corners. I tried most everything I could think of in the time I had... super soft center spring/shock, saucing only rear tires, lessening front camber, moving caster back and forth, 10k vs 25k in tubes, re-checking/setting the tweak, moving from a gear diff to ball and setting it loose enough that I could hear it slip, etc. It was a disaster. Even when verified straight/balanced, the car had no rear grip and would hook violently with any application of steering. I would liken it to driving old/dry foam tires on a smooth garage floor. Details:

F16
Kit front/side springs
Started with CRC red center spring, went down two rates (to blue wind tunnel)
CRC tires (new) with Protek Red compound
Battery transverse, all the way back
Protoform wings, max downforce settings

It was suggested that the tires were TOO soft for the heat, but I don't know how that could be unless they were falling apart, and they did not.

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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
Does anyone have a good asphalt setup for a CRC F1 (16)? I tried mine first time on asphalt this weekend, and it was in a word, awful. ZERO rear grip to the point of undrivable and unable either use full throttle (even gradually on the straight), or even coast through corners. I tried most everything I could think of in the time I had... super soft center spring/shock, saucing only rear tires, lessening front camber, moving caster back and forth, 10k vs 25k in tubes, re-checking/setting the tweak, moving from a gear diff to ball and setting it loose enough that I could hear it slip, etc. It was a disaster. Even when verified straight/balanced, the car had no rear grip and would hook violently with any application of steering. I would liken it to driving old/dry foam tires on a smooth garage floor. Details:

F16
Kit front/side springs
Started with CRC red center spring, went down two rates (to blue wind tunnel)
CRC tires (new) with Protek Red compound
Battery transverse, all the way back
Protoform wings, max downforce settings

It was suggested that the tires were TOO soft for the heat, but I don't know how that could be unless they were falling apart, and they did not.
CRC tires are Pit 572, which should be ok in most situations. Brand new tires are not always the best, though. Can you see squiggly lines on the tread? If so , they may not be broken in yet.

Also, buggy grip to clean, then either tire tweak (hot) or paragon FXII (white can) for cooler weather. I haven't used the Protek. You may want a different front tire. Kit Tamiya F104 fronts work almost everywhere, Gravity fronts might be good too.


Make sure you have enough droop- 1 or 1.5mm to start. Run the front ride height higher - try 1 mm difference to start. Also, the CRC car is different than most cars, in that the center pivot is further away from the rear axle than most cars. This helps on carpet, but seems to hinder it on asphalt. It's not quite as easy to hook up.
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