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Old 09-18-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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Going to be switching my stock to 17.5 pretty soon and as far as 13.5 brushless, ive had great luck with novak motors (i have a GTB and an XBR and two 13.5ss's). I may be acquiring new generation Orion 17.5 and have ordered gearing to set my FDR on my cyclone to 3.48 (which is near the novak recommended 3.5 which im not sure applies to this Orion 17.5). Oh...also ordered the LRP brushless heatsink/fan combo thing to help with heat.

Anyways, my question is, how fast are these orion 17.5s and how do they compare to competing brands? I like 13.5 the way i have it now and i like being fast, so i want to get the optimum 17.5. I hear good things about the orion so im happy about that but can anyone speak from experience? How about for other brands of motors? Any help is appreciated
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Old 09-18-2008, 03:09 PM   #2
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I would run the orion 17.5, the new 2008 ones w/ the marked timing can. I have run the 13.5 and 10.5 Orion motors and they are super easy to take apart and clean. I guess any Fagio based motor is going to be awsome. I would stay away from the novaks simply because the sensor harness is not replaceable and can cause a mess in on road cars or where space is limited.

Unfortunately i have no experience with other brands of motors other than Novak and Orion. Novak def gets props for being the first ones to pioneer the 1/10 brushless scene, but the Orion gets a from me.

The novak FDR chart is really nice for a base setting. Then tune according to the track! If your hitting top speed mid straight go up a tooth or two. If your overgeared, say you never reach top speed on the straight, drop it down 2 teeth.
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I would run the orion 17.5, the new 2008 ones w/ the marked timing can. I have run the 13.5 and 10.5 Orion motors and they are super easy to take apart and clean. I guess any Fagio based motor is going to be awsome. I would stay away from the novaks simply because the sensor harness is not replaceable and can cause a mess in on road cars or where space is limited.

Unfortunately i have no experience with other brands of motors other than Novak and Orion. Novak def gets props for being the first ones to pioneer the 1/10 brushless scene, but the Orion gets a from me.

The novak FDR chart is really nice for a base setting. Then tune according to the track! If your hitting top speed mid straight go up a tooth or two. If your overgeared, say you never reach top speed on the straight, drop it down 2 teeth.
The Orion's are really nice. That was my favorite 17.5. I have a Tekin in my car now and I am still testing. But you won't go wrong with the Orion.
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guys, what is the equivalent turn of a brush motor to a 17.5 brushless motor?
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17.5BL = 27t brushed
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Nice. Happy to hear this guys. Lets keep this thread goin tho it seems like it could prove helpful
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I don't know how the Orion 17.5 compares to others in terms of speed, but I thought the new one had the best feel of any BL motor I've run. It's got a very smooth, predictable power band. It's the motor I plan to use during long practice sessions.
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It seems like some motors are designed to produce as much power as possible given a certain number of winds, but lose a lot of feel and drivability in the process. I wonder if that's why Novak produces "light" motors.
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The Duo based motors are Insane. I have had many that have tried others, reply simple..WOW after trying a Duo based motor......
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As stated, the Duo based motors are rediculous. I switched from a novk 17.5 to a Duo 17.5, and my car instantly got faster running the same gearing and everything. The red is absolutely trick as well. I just put a Duo 13.5 in my Rubber tire car to try, and also got a 3.5 to try out for foam tire racing later in the year.
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Novak still a very strong choice! Lets just say that if you were going to copy a motor it seems Novak bL motors are being cloned.
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+1 on the Trinity Duo, I geared mine at 4.5 and was keeping pace with guys using the LRP 17.5 geared around 3.9 - 4.1

Geared to 4.2 still ran cool, and was gaining ground on the straights.
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I can say that the losi seems to be slower then the novak........ so stay away from the losi......
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I really like my Hacker E40 17.5
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i have a losi motor and it goes great, and from what i hear its the same as a hacker mot
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