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Old 09-17-2008, 08:15 PM   #16
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You race on SUNDAY...I clean up my flooded basement Sunday....that mean you got practice more then I do...unfair advantage, for me that is cheating.
.....you faster then me all the time, for me, that is cheating too...I HATE YOU...

p.s...guy, you know I love you deep down inside...LOL.
I didn't mean you,you would never cheat...Oh wait , there was that time @ Strictly j/k.
Sorry to hear to hear about your basement,the pond across the street from my house became a lake last Sat. but luckily didnt reach my house.
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Old 09-18-2008, 07:39 AM   #17
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Unfortunately cheating is part of racing. Whether it is Nascar, F1, or RC your going to have people pushing the envelope to try an gain an edge. I'd be willing to bet that 60 percent of the cars rolling off of the Nascar trailers every weekend are cheating. Those high profile crew chiefs find away to stay one step ahead of the tech inspection process. Just ask Jimmy Johnson or Dale Junior... Think about it, do you think that it was just a random freak thing that they had been caught...

The same goes for the big guys and teams in our sport of which I have been a part of since 88. Do you think they have been running the same stuff we have been running... hmmm...

I do not cheat myself nor do I condone it but I am certainly aware of it's existance.

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Old 09-18-2008, 08:00 AM   #18
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Does passing wind on the rostrum count as cheating?

Finding an advantage not listed on the rules is always something someone will want to capitalise on, but down right cheating...

No thanks. I've not knowingly cheated in any races and my current car probably weighs almost as much as a small tank
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Old 09-18-2008, 12:14 PM   #19
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I dont know if its considered cheating, but I always thought it would be fun...

1. Be the only guy without spectrum radio on the driver stand.

2. Have a friend ready to call out your name loudly somewhere near the driver's stand.

3. Squeeze in between the top 2 drivers on the driver's stand.

4. At different time intervals have your buddy scream your name from differenst sides of the stand.

5. Quickly turn your whole body in the direction of the scream and yell, WHAT?

6. Enjoy the madness.
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #20
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I dont know if its considered cheating, but I always thought it would be fun...

1. Be the only guy without spectrum radio on the driver stand.

2. Have a friend ready to call out your name loudly somewhere near the driver's stand.

3. Squeeze in between the top 2 drivers on the driver's stand.

4. At different time intervals have your buddy scream your name from differenst sides of the stand.

5. Quickly turn your whole body in the direction of the scream and yell, WHAT?

6. Enjoy the madness.



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Old 09-18-2008, 08:20 PM   #21
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The problem is some cheaters are frontrunners. Theough I'm not denying some backmarkers might also cheat

I can still remember F1 year 2000 in Sepang F1 circuit, Malaysia. Those days traction control was still at it's infancy and not legal. But everytime a Ferrari car brakes during cornering, the engine misfires. The other cars did not.

When Traction control was made legal suddenly all cars misfire during corner.

So, moral of story when stakes are high, given opportunity, even reputable teams/drivers will cheat to win.....

Mc laren/Ferarri ???? Same boat I suppose..... any other teams that you can list?
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:22 PM   #22
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haha, i like the good old getting to the competition routine?

"Hey man your car seems slow today? everything hooked up alright?"

"I would turn that epa down if i were you"?

"I always screw up that part of the track"

"are you shocks set right"? Car seems unstable?
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Old 09-18-2008, 08:56 PM   #23
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I heard by rubbing very powerful magnet to your motor can, will make your motor torquey. Is it true? Might it ruin your precious motor if you did it wrongly?

My idea of legally increasing your handout motor rpm is by correctly running it. I have tried a few trick but still from my best experience, the best option is still dipping the motor in a pail of water and running it with a 4 cell battery.

Occasionally take out the motor and check whether the brush is properly set to the comm. Clean it with motor cleaner and continue running the motor as before.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:31 AM   #24
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I have been racing for 22 years. I have known a lot of guys that cheated over the years. The funny thing is that is is extremely rare that they ever won or even finish in the top 5. Some guys that aren't very good drivers cheat but it just doesn't do them any good.
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using beta blockers or having a 'safety meeting' before racing is what I'm talking about. doping at r/c events.......
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I have been racing for 22 years. I have known a lot of guys that cheated over the years. The funny thing is that is is extremely rare that they ever won or even finish in the top 5. Some guys that aren't very good drivers cheat but it just doesn't do them any good.


Been racing just as long and for me the cheating has only grown worst year to year....

3 years ago I quit spec racing forever....

I could not be comfortable always wondering if my buddy`s were legit or not....
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:49 AM   #27
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from what I can see, the more variables there are that could get you the top spot there's less cheating. IE, in rallyX, where setup and tuning is everything, people seem less likely to cheat, and seem to be more friendly towards each other than, say, 27 or 19t on road. of course, this is just from my experience, but I do think if someone can spend money to be on top they will, instead of cheating.
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What is the point in racing if you know you are going to win, especially by cheating? Racing is to see who is a better driver than the others, not to go out and see who is the better cheater than others.
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haha, i like the good old getting to the competition routine?

"Hey man your car seems slow today? everything hooked up alright?"

"I would turn that epa down if i were you"?

"I always screw up that part of the track"

"are you shocks set right"? Car seems unstable?
Perfect, I have a buddy who says everytime his wife is about to beat him at golf he gives her some tips.
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About the only way to avoid cheating entirely would be to have hand out whole cars and not allow anyone other than the track officials handle the cars.

But even then... it would still be possible to cheat.

I have accidentally cheated before. I was racing in a strict stock mini-slider class and I did not know I wasn't allowed to change my battery and motor connectors and that I could only run a stock Losi 1100 mAh battery. I ran a 1400 mAh battery and I think I did have quite an advantage. I had no idea that they were so strict. The only minor complaint I really had was with the battery. At the time the Losi 100mAh battery was WAY over priced and there were much cheaper 1100 mAh batteries available.

If I ever have to intentionally cheat to win, they I will stop racing entirely. I could not look in the mirror after that.
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