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Old 09-15-2003, 06:51 PM
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I think your looking to get into Mod WAYYYY to fast.
How much driving experience do you have PERIOD?
I dont know if you know the timetable of tracks like trackside but unless you just pick up onroad REALLY fast Im guessing you wont be respectful in MOD for about a year or more.Unless you practice on a daily basis and really learn about the car.If your wanting to take racing seriously and do GOOD in mod.I would look for other RARE cars that actually work though and one's that wont be SUCH a headache.I wish you luck man.Your going to need LOTS of it.Dont expect TOO much from the CAR or Yourself that early.
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:35 PM
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TexRacer - Well it's not out of reach, I've been racing for about 3 months and would feel comfortable moving to mod. I think you get out of it what you put into it, but without a good chassis your screw'd from the start.

Want something different, look at some of the older corally's C4AG, C4.1. If you can get the TC4 to handle then great but if you can't and still want something different you can get absolutely sick deals on older Corally's. Or maybe the new Assassin if budget allows. Just something to think about...
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Old 09-15-2003, 08:44 PM
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FatDoggy it really depends on the track you race at.Trackside is VERY competitive.Other tracks you might be able to move up quicker.
But lets go into detail about MOVING up.
You dont move up if your in the way of everyone else and getting beat by 3 laps or more.Your not learning much this way.
Stay in stock,win it a couple 3-5 times and then practice with mod and move up.90% of it will be throttle control and knowing the difference in cornering with the extra speed.
If you see your as fast as everyone in stock but understand you just dont have the motor or batteries the other guys do this might also be an excuse to move up.In saying this I mean that you are driving really well and doing consistant lap times but just dont have the tuned motors and batteries that some of the other guys may have.
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Old 09-16-2003, 01:51 AM
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Tex,

The car has a couple of flaws. The BB's and the diffs are a couple of them.
But they can be sorted with a little care.

I've seen several TC4 handle like a charm, and it was in mod. In fact the portuguese National Champion in 2002 won races with it and set several track records with 12 modified.

The car has so many tuning options that it's just a matter of testing hard with several combinations.

I've seen that car kick TC3, Xray, Tamiya and the like.

It's not as good as an Xray with box setup but can do almost (if not exactly) the same.
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Old 09-16-2003, 03:56 AM
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The car has also won the German Championship, by the time it was new.

I've met two guys running this car at a race I was at. They were very happy with their cars. They werent top drivers, but compared to their skills as driveres, they did well.

Also, the car is what could be called classic belt drive lay out, so I cant believe it is a bad car. The HPI Pro2 and XRay do very well with similar layout.

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Old 09-16-2003, 05:34 AM
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One tip I can give you on carpet is Penquin R/C makes some lowering plates for the old Pro 2.I have seen guys with this car use those and adapt them to the GM car.But in all honesty guys.Those cars you saw were NOT production type cars.If I remeber right the chassis's were shorter to turn better and the rear arm layout was different than what you could buy.I remeber reading that on one of the foreign websites a while back.The Stock kit had alot of complaints about PUSH from hell and that it was always wanting to come around on carpet no matter what you did.I hope he does well with the car but instead of just driving I think he's going to do more fighting the car if you know what i mean.I like Rare Cars Myself but I like to have an idea or somewhat someone to share tips with.My favorite of these type cars is the Kawada SV-10.I did very well with this car.But parts support and setup help got bad in a hurry.I wish him Luck and hopes he has LOTS of fun because thats what its all about.
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Old 09-16-2003, 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by TexRacer
FatDoggy it really depends on the track you race at.Trackside is VERY competitive.Other tracks you might be able to move up quicker.
If your talking hardcore racing then it's probabely a bad idea to move up that quick, especially if your going straight from the lhs to the track with no previous history with R/C cars.
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Old 09-16-2003, 06:17 PM
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I dont plan on becoming a hardcore racing for a while....which is atleast a year away....i just plan on maby just bying a mod so that i can practice with a stock at learn a little more about tuning and driving, and once i feel comfident, i will practice with mod...by the way, is there a better English GM site...it sems like they havent updated it for atlest a year???


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Old 09-17-2003, 11:01 AM
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In our club, it's extremely difficult to enter mod class... we aint got a mod class

Anyway, when I started out, I used a Peak Panther motor. I found that starting with a slower motor, the car was easier to handle. I still believe that learned me a lot about driving style faster, than if I had to fight a wild motor.

There's nothing wrong about dreaming about mod class, it's extremely fascinating to watch a mod car.

However, take the time for learning, which is proper for YOU, before getting a fast motor. It'll both be easier and cheaper in the long run.
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Old 09-17-2003, 11:31 AM
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Once you can lap consistantly use a mod motor and it shows you where your setup is lacking due to the extra power, correct these areas then move back to stock and you should be a little faster. Only if you run a few practice laps with a mod it would help car setup greatly i think.
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Old 09-18-2003, 02:33 PM
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Will one run make foam tires cone??? I was wondering becasue i dont have a tire truer and wanted to know if foams would start to cone in one 5 minute run??? If i rotated my tires after every run would it even out the wear???

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Old 09-24-2003, 06:10 PM
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I just got my car today, and it is awsome....I am wondering what all of the set up options mean, like anti squad, what does it do??? What does standing or laying down shocks do to the handling of the car? What do different springs and fluids do to help the car, and what about droop...how does droop contribute to the car handling???

Thanks for all of everyones help, and Im sorry that i am asking alot
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Old 09-24-2003, 06:51 PM
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Go here - http://home.tiscali.be/be067749/58/
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HeY!!!

switchblade foam tires don't cone that fast it'll prolly take 2-3 for them to start, but i don't get mine till you can notice them which is 2 weeks and i just get them evened out from paul or skip at trackside if you still race there. just ask someone down there w/ a tire truer and i'm sure they will.
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Old 09-25-2003, 07:07 PM
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has anyone had any experiance with the Arrows tires... do they make any 24mm foams, or just 26mm? Is there a large difference in handling between the 24 s and 26's???

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