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Old 03-07-2005, 10:35 PM   #1201
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Wow, once again the trash talk has started for tcs nats, we only have had 2 races so far. Bring it on

I race my TB02 in gt1 a lot. I have a fix for the stripped gear PM me Ian.
kevin.. willing to share? if you are... im on AIM. hit me up
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I race my TB02 in gt1 a lot. I have a fix for the stripped gear PM me Ian.
KEV... I personally had not have this problem in my TB02. Not sure why Jasper and Chris' car seems to strip quite a lot... hmmmm...

Thanks for the help in advance! BTW, Mr. Katzer started the trash talking as usual...
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Old 03-08-2005, 05:33 PM   #1204
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KEV... I personally had not have this problem in my TB02. Not sure why Jasper and Chris' car seems to strip quite a lot... hmmmm...

Thanks for the help in advance! BTW, Mr. Katzer started the trash talking as usual...
i guess kevin doesnt want to help me

no lumpia and pancit for you mr. kevin m!
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Old 03-08-2005, 08:56 PM   #1207
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Hey guys,

I ran my tb02 last practice night -only chnages from previus week when the car just had tons of roll-but was other wise planted was go to purple frnt and grey rear springs. After tires warmed up-it wold spin out in any fast corner and NOT sharp corners.

So-of course I put some soft rear springs on it-no chnage still spun out.

Any ideas? Is it possible the tires just gave up the ghost -I dont know the total number of runs on them.

For chnages i put the 2 deg hubs on and a-b block, softened up the sway bar from yellow to red and put the grey springs back on.

Again-understand-I dont run rubber tires. Thsis all greek to me.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:02 PM   #1208
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What letter blocks are you running in the rear?
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Old 03-09-2005, 12:19 AM   #1209
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Hey guys,

I ran my tb02 last practice night -only chnages from previus week when the car just had tons of roll-but was other wise planted was go to purple frnt and grey rear springs. After tires warmed up-it wold spin out in any fast corner and NOT sharp corners.

So-of course I put some soft rear springs on it-no chnage still spun out.

Any ideas? Is it possible the tires just gave up the ghost -I dont know the total number of runs on them.

For chnages i put the 2 deg hubs on and a-b block, softened up the sway bar from yellow to red and put the grey springs back on.

Again-understand-I dont run rubber tires. Thsis all greek to me.
i had a similar problem on sunday's TCS. i asked a local TRF driver. (Ling Kang Tong, 2004 GT-1 National Champ)...and he noticed how short the camber links were in the rear. i made the rear camber links longer..and it really settled the car down.
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:54 AM   #1210
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What letter blocks are you running in the rear?

I started the evening with the rear block a/b and zero degree hubs and the camber link long and raised 1mm on the vertical ballstud. It wasnt loose at all the previous week like that.

Also interesting is cars got tons of steering-even with a 5 to 6' turning circle. No doubt as its so loose.


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Old 03-09-2005, 09:38 AM   #1211
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I ran Saturday with 2 degree hubs and an A/C block setup. I stuck like glue and finished nicely.
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Where did you find 0 deg hubs?

Tamiya only makes 1 deg in two types of plastic, and an alloy. Then a plastic 2 deg.

What is the rest of the setup? you said you went to grey, what did you have?
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Where did you find 0 deg hubs?

Tamiya only makes 1 deg in two types of plastic, and an alloy. Then a plastic 2 deg.

What is the rest of the setup? you said you went to grey, what did you have?
OH-sorry-must be 1 deg huubs then in back with a/b blocks. I'll post up the rest of the set-up soon..
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Ray if it is the Alu rear hubs with the 3mm hinge pin then they are 1d hubs. If it is the LW suspension with the 2.6mm hinge pin then it can be a 0, or 1d hub. The 0d hub came with the Worlds upgrade with the XA etc. blocks.

All that said you should have the 1d rear hubs. You might look at doing a couple of things with the car.

1. Go to the middle hole rear hub and raise the link to 2mm. This will help get some camber gain as the car rotates through the corner.

2. Move the front arm forward 1-2mm to transfer some weight off of the front of the car.

3. Move the rear arm forward 1-2 mm to again transfer more weight over the rear axle.

4. Not sure where you have the front link under spacing at but you might need to raise 1-2mm to bleed some of the midcorner traction. It might come at teh expense of having a harder turn-in initially. Also remove arm sweep if you have some in.

Try them all in order of 1-4 and see what helps. The tires could be some of it but it should not degrade that fast.

Also check the usual that there is no parts rubbing in the front or body dragging.
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TB02 set-up when it was spinning out in high speed corners.

Front
shocls 60 wt Trinity oil Purple spring. Out on tower, in on arm.

Camber link middle hole on alum mount raised 4mm (angled dwon very steep).

4-deg caster, a/a blocks. BLue sway bar. 2mm uptravel for droop. Arms all the way back.
Ride height 4.5mm , camber 2, type A tires on grey rims and hard insert-full air gap. Sauced half with Paragon FXII

Rear
Shocks 50 wt Trinity oil Grey springs. Out on shock tower-out on arm.

Camber link is long on camber plate raised 1mm. Long on hub. LInk is pretty flat.

Yellow sway bar, stock hubs. 2.5mm uptravel for droop.

Arms 4mm back, a/b blocks. Ride height 5mm , camber 2, type A tires on grey rims and hard insert-full air gap. Sauced full with Paragon FXII

Body is NIsmo Skyline .

Let me know if I left anything out. OH_I would also traction roll if I even nicked a flapper. if I didnt touch a flapper-car wouldnt flip-probably because the car would slide instead of lift.

I also have now gone to 2 deg rear hubs, red rear sway bar and reduced droop all around. Also planningn on going to 3 deg rear camber..
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