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Old 04-14-2004, 06:22 AM   #541
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it's good enough. Not as light as the pro kits, but it's comparable to TB Evo III/Surikarn Edition. Many of the parts are interchangeable.
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It is a great car to run Tamiya TCS racing classes. Our local track runs alot of Tamiya classes so the car is nice to have as it can run in Tamiya GT1, GT2, and GT3 classes all with one car. It is pretty versatile and has lots of available hopups as almost all the EVO 3 stuff and aSurikarn stuff fits the car. Only thing you can use is the Adjustable motor mount, Graphite top and bottom plates. Any other hopup is allowed and still be TCS legal.
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:01 AM   #543
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Does this car have a spur gear adapter like the Evo III or do I have to make another one...

Hmm...Gary's TB-02 looks damn good, I got an Evo I so I have my TRF dampners (with metal collars ), ti-turnbuckles/universals, one-way diff & hardened suspension arms right there. My dad has acess to a mill and some alluminum so an adjustable motor mount is no problem for meh (could just take the drill to it though)

$175 ass kicker? hmmm I've always wanted an Evo III that I could afford/race GT-2 with....Maybe I'll try to pick one of these up, don't have a job but a 104% A in math isn't going to exactly hurt
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Thanks Black Cat. If it don't go, gotta make it good for show Actually, I don't know how this car handles yet. I plan on testing it this weekend if the weather holds out. You can use the Evo 3 Spur gear adapter, but then you need to screw around getting the gearing right with the fixed motor mount. I'd just buy a set of metric pinions and be done with it.
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Old 04-14-2004, 04:40 PM   #545
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You can use the Evo 3 Spur gear adapter, but then you need to screw around getting the gearing right with the fixed motor mount. I'd just buy a set of metric pinions and be done with it.
Gary, does that mean the stock gear spur adapter is different then the EVO III one? You still need to play around with gearing using the stock spur adapter too right?
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I've had metric pinions/spurs cost me a race....I'm done with them

Making a motor mount isn't a big deal for me. I'll just take a drill to the existing one or give the part to my dad & he'll make a new one up on a mill outa alluminum
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There is no spur gear adaptor for the TB-02 per se. The Spur gears themselves are molded so the cross pin keys into them. It kinda looks like a + in the middle of the gear.

Black Cat, thats fine if you're not worried about being TCS legal or if you are going to run the car in GT1, but even there milling the motor mount out to adjust the spacing may be considered re-engineering the chassis (a no-no). Plus, the way the motor mounts, it's nearly impossible to adjust the spacing AND still tighten both motor screws. How did metric pinions cost you a race?

Hey Kevin (dsrbltoys), can you boys at Burien get those RW pinions you were telling me about??
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hey guys...the new Z500 from jgtc is coming from tamiya.

http://www.tamiya.com/english/show0405/show0405.htm
The Z500 might be cool, although the new R34 is pretty cool to.

It will be interesting to see what the new springs are from the show... do you think they cracked the 30p barrier...

Also I wonder if the Super Stock motors with this years Nats handout motors? Seems like the timing could be about right.
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Old 04-14-2004, 09:44 PM   #549
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There is no spur gear adaptor for the TB-02 per se. The Spur gears themselves are molded so the cross pin keys into them. It kinda looks like a + in the middle of the gear.

Black Cat, thats fine if you're not worried about being TCS legal or if you are going to run the car in GT1, but even there milling the motor mount out to adjust the spacing may be considered re-engineering the chassis (a no-no). Plus, the way the motor mounts, it's nearly impossible to adjust the spacing AND still tighten both motor screws.


Maybe on a national basis but on the regional basis simply drilling out the motor mount would be ignored by tech. I can tell you've never worked on a BMI TC3 Trust me, I'll have no probs tigtening the screws

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Make sure you dont race that thing at Hobbytown in Newark Black Kat.I will tech your car if you decide to ever run it in a tamiya class here.Anyways for the winner of the sportsman B main you sure do know alot.Btw,I have the BMI TC3 chassis and theres no comparison so why mention it.
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There is no spur gear adaptor for the TB-02 per se. The Spur gears themselves are molded so the cross pin keys into them. It kinda looks like a + in the middle of the gear.
Gary I thought you had a TB02. There is a plastic spur gear adapter in the kit. Or atlease it sure looks like one.
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I do have a TB-02 kit. The spur gears are identical to what the F201 uses. I'll post a pic here later, it will make more sense then. Now that I think of it, I think there may be a plastic adapter on one of the parts trees that looks like the kit TA04 spur gear hub, but I'm not sure.

Black Cat, the motor mount is nothing like a TC3 mount, so the comparison isn't relevant. And just because its something that may not be teched doesn't make it any more legal. There's an integrity issue there.
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Old 04-15-2004, 10:17 AM   #553
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Make sure you dont race that thing at Hobbytown in Newark Black Kat.I will tech your car if you decide to ever run it in a tamiya class here.Anyways for the winner of the sportsman B main you sure do know alot.Btw,I have the BMI TC3 chassis and theres no comparison so why mention it.
I might end up running a Yoke as a second car anyway which means I'd run the Evo I...And how did you get a spot as tech?

TCS rules alow for any spur and any spur adapter. I'd use the regular part for a TCS race but for regular use I'd rather have my own part. How hard can it be to shove a regular allen in there? Can't be any harder than the BMI

Racenut, I'd like to see you run out there with a car youv'e never run before. My other car (which I usually run on carpet) just got a semi-rebuild a few days before the race and I didn't have time to set it up so I just ran the BMI w/a one way. Plus I found out I was racing that day hours before the flag dropped....in addition I'm not that experienced of a carpet driver. I bet under the same circumstances you couldn't have done much better....And for the sake of our accounts, stop trying to start stuff with people...

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check your pm Black Kat.

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Gary I thought you had a TB02. There is a plastic spur gear adapter in the kit. Or atlease it sure looks like one.
Did you use the adapter or just the spur kind that RC Driver Gary mention? Does Tamiya have spur gear that is 55T, 58T and 61T for the adapter?
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