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Old 10-19-2008, 09:55 PM   #121
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Hey everyone,
Looking at getting one of these for driveway bashing.
Can either (or both) of these be run on regular 6 cell nimh packs?
What would be recommended for a gravel hound 1/10 scale 4wd buggy?
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:39 AM   #122
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Nexxus .. I am not pushing anything just stating facts. The heatsink can versions are 380 motors. The heatsink just makes them look the same size as a 540.

The true 540 motors are just that .. a true 540 can and rotor. Of course the little 380 motors are going to heat up. They are not designed for larger vehicles.

I am not going to pull apart motors just to satisfy your curiosity
They are definatly a 380. If you measure in between the finns you can see the actual size of the can

And if you open it it looks like a mini 540
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Hey everyone,
Looking at getting one of these for driveway bashing.
Can either (or both) of these be run on regular 6 cell nimh packs?
What would be recommended for a gravel hound 1/10 scale 4wd buggy?
Yes they can be run on 6 cells and up to 9 cells

Put for lipo you can run 2s and 3s

What motor are you going to run?





BTW has anyone run brushed with the esc?? If so is there a motor limit??
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I am pretty sure cannon is correct.I have read somewhere about the different combos. Here is a link to the 540? size ones.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=380073964392
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Thanks for answering Drifting101.
What I was concerned with most is whether the 35A is enough or do I need to go with the 60A?
I'm replacing a crapped out Novak SS 5800 system and would like to get at least close performance.
Any recommendations from the combos at RCMarket?
They have the 35A and 9T combo, or the 60A and 5.5T combo.
I went back and read through this entire thread and noticed that some people are running these esc's with novak sensored motors by leaving the sensor wire disconnected (since there is no where to connect them anyways).
Does anyone know whether my SS5800 motor (esc fried, motor is near new) would work fine with either the 35A or 60A esc's on 6 cell nimh?

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weird, the eZrun 60A and 9T combo was pulled from their official site ... sold separately now. i wish they would post official info on their new motors, i've opted to get a used novak 6.5 motor in hopes this would work and run a cooler system. the 380 motor is kind of a turn off now, i dont want to keep stressing this motor out, maybe i can use it for something else.
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I think it's safe to say that the 380 motor in the 540 shell makes it look more appealing than it is, and makes the ESC seem more capable than it is as well (in reality the 35A esc is no more powerful than a Mamba Mini ESC)

Won't handle a 1:10 car too well unless it's in short bursts due to lack of torque / heating up, probably fine in a Mini though.

The 60A esc seems not too bad, and paired with a "real" 540 motor it becomes a semi budget kit but puts it in the price range of the Sidewinder combos.
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Hi guys,
Im thinking about getting one of these systems for my 1/10 Pan Car for some speed runs and some bashing. Im thinking about getting the 9t system but wasnt sure if it is suited to my application? also is it meant to be equivilent to a 9t brushed? How are they lasting for the people who have them?

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I think it's safe to say that the 380 motor in the 540 shell makes it look more appealing than it is, and makes the ESC seem more capable than it is as well (in reality the 35A esc is no more powerful than a Mamba Mini ESC)

Won't handle a 1:10 car too well unless it's in short bursts due to lack of torque / heating up, probably fine in a Mini though.

The 60A esc seems not too bad, and paired with a "real" 540 motor it becomes a semi budget kit but puts it in the price range of the Sidewinder combos.
Run a mamba max with the esc if you want

I mean a 380 is good for 1/10th scale cars not 1/8th Slash (And dont tell it is sold as a 1/10th because its wheel base a a 1/8th scale buggies>

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Thanks for answering Drifting101.
What I was concerned with most is whether the 35A is enough or do I need to go with the 60A?
I'm replacing a crapped out Novak SS 5800 system and would like to get at least close performance.
Any recommendations from the combos at RCMarket?
They have the 35A and 9T combo, or the 60A and 5.5T combo.
I went back and read through this entire thread and noticed that some people are running these esc's with novak sensored motors by leaving the sensor wire disconnected (since there is no where to connect them anyways).
Does anyone know whether my SS5800 motor (esc fried, motor is near new) would work fine with either the 35A or 60A esc's on 6 cell nimh?
With a 9 turn run about 7.3 fdr

What kv is the 5.5? so i can work on a fdr for you

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Hi guys,
Im thinking about getting one of these systems for my 1/10 Pan Car for some speed runs and some bashing. Im thinking about getting the 9t system but wasnt sure if it is suited to my application? also is it meant to be equivilent to a 9t brushed? How are they lasting for the people who have them?

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The 9 turn is equivelent to a 19 turn brushed (technically)





Ok so i have done 7 packs through it and i have found it is great

and the 10t in a light weight truck feels like a 14t brushed motor in a normal weight truck
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hey there ive got a tt01 and thinking about getting the 5.5 + 60 a esc / motor combo

i was wondering what gearing should i use so i can order the correct gears when i order the motor?
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hey there ive got a tt01 and thinking about getting the 5.5 + 60 a esc / motor combo

i was wondering what gearing should i use so i can order the correct gears when i order the motor?
As stated on the first page about 6.2 fdr
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The 5.5 is rated at 6000KV.
The closest my buggy can get to 7.3 final drive is 7.54, is that ok??
So I guess you're saying the 35A system should be fine for my buggy as long as I gear it close to the above mentioned fdr?
Thanks again!
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I have had my ezrun 60amp for about 3 weeks. I got it with the 5.5 6000kv motor. The motor seems more like its not as fast as a 5.5 from novak but faster than a 6.5.

I am running a kyosho zx-5 with a FDR of 10.2 with the 5.5 w/ 60amp combo for an indoor track. motor comes off 140 and the esc is warm but not too bad. I would definately keep the fan on with the 5.5 but with a slower motor I bet you wouldnt need it.

paulicat- go with the 5.5 and 60amp combo or the mamba systems. the 35amp combo and a 380 motor just seems underpowed for offroad. I would run that in a TC. Keep 380 motors in minis, the 4wd drivetrain eats up a lot of power
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Great information shawnyd, thanks a bunch for sharing that!
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This would have been good to advertise..

Selling the 9t 10T etc.. as a combo for 1/10 onroad and offroad is misleading - Does Hobbywing themselves say.. for small 1/10 1/12???

Also as stated they are still advertising that there is temp monitoring for these..

"3.3 Built-in temperature sensor. When the temperature of the motor is too high, the speed controller will stop the motor automatically. (This function is only available when using Hobbywing's speed controller.)"

I have purchased this from RC Market and now I worry that I need to figure out on my own what is truth and fiction.

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Hobbywing already make a 5.5 , 8.5, 13.5, and 17.5 sensorless motor in 540 size. In fact you can buy them as combos with the 60A ESC

The 9, 10, 12 and 13t motors are a 380 motor and are designed to drive small 1/10 scale and 12th scale cars only

It all comes down to buying a system applicable to your use. You cant expect a 380 motor to drive ST vehicles without having heart attacks
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