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Old 08-26-2003, 05:53 PM   #1
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Alrighty guys what yours opinions on this? I've seen some cars faster through sweeps and wide chicanes but everyone is going shaft. I can say with shaft you need to stay "on-throttle" where belt rolls what's your theory? Both systems are excellant, yea, HPI/Xray/Yok/AE/Tamiya are excellant, lets here some experiences, sure Baker won the Reedy but Trinity wasn't there-does that mean anything? ? Post.

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trinity was there...
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dieter wasn't there for the regular guys. Tthey did seem under powered somewhat (IMO)
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didnt they get 2nd place?
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Old 08-27-2003, 12:20 AM   #5
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2nd place and trin guyz weren't there....hmmmmm Them trinds got serious tORQUE! Cool, that's a start, one things for sure, reedy stocks ***k! Cyrul back this up.
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Old 08-27-2003, 02:28 AM   #6
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id say theres nothing in it.the question should be what weight distribution as all shaft cars are about the same.remember shaft vs belt is only transmission but there arent many configurations you can have on a shaft car.and its bcause of this seems the best weight configaration for all cars [cells down 1 side and all electronics down the other].
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Old 08-27-2003, 06:12 PM   #7
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I think it comes down to driving style. I ran a TC3 for 18 months and was barely able to get out of the local Sportsman class and into stock (here it goes novice, sportsman, stock, exp stock) I just never felt comfortable running it. I bought a Losi four months ago, and now I'm running expert mod races and running with some fairly fast guys. But I've seen it go the other way too. Guys running belt cars go out and get a TC3 or a Yok and pick up 3 tenths all of a sudden. Just what you're comfortable running.
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I think the Losi is an easier car to drive, but the TC3 has more potential. If you are an awesome driver, you can do fine with either, though for whatever reason the TC3s seem to be faster in stock.
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2 drive system, 2 driving style. I got 4 cars, 2 shafts, 3 belts (X-ray T1 Evo2 and xxx-s, total 3 belts). TC3 seems the toughest car, a good best lab machine. TB3 was the hardest one, if x-ray is a hummer, then TB3 will be a tank. xxx-s g+ have best preformance in mod race, when X-ray was the finest car. If force me to pick one, I would like the Losi, if not concerning the budget.
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Old 08-27-2003, 10:26 PM   #10
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I've got a belt that holds my pants up so that I don't expose my shaft

Seriously, it's good to have both...one of these days I may dust off my 414 to see if I can get it as good as my Evo3
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LOL RtypeC, thanks for letting us know that, if you had pants that fitted you prolly wouldn't have that problem.

So is it safe to say, neither system has a better advantage over the other, sure there has to be a differance but to me it's so minute.

In regards to a post above, I agree weight placement has a huge affect on cars and we could be comparing apples to oranges since say Xrays weight placement is very even all around on the chassis where on the shaft driven cars there's uneven weight on the chassis unless you add weight but it's not near perfect as the saddle-pack, transverse mounted motor cars.

Sorry everyone, I was referring "belts" as xray(not xxxs) and "shafts" as all the yokomo/tc3/evo3. Reason for this is I see these Xrays and they ARE fast.

Maybe I should be asking, which do you think out of the two has less resistance, more effecient drivetrain? "On-power" that is.
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I like belt drive better cuz it doesnt make as much noise. But if i were to buy a shaft i'd definitely go with the Tc3 cuz its a lot faster than my xxx-s on stock racing.
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All I can say is I had a XXX-S G+ and went to a SD, and I am really happy with the car. It seemed to be quicker out of the corners and maybe even top-end. It did seem to be slower mid-corner, but hopefully I can change that (rear tower up front, better setup, etc.).

So for me and my (developing) driving style, I would have to say I perfer the shaft (well, at least the SD to the XXX-S).
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Old 08-28-2003, 02:17 AM   #14
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shaft drive cars shud b faster out of corners due to no 'stretching'of the belts or no take up.
i dont think its anything to do with shaft vs belt
the best weight distribution is
batts on 1 side in the middle[compared to front and rear wheels]
and electronics down 1 side.for both shaft and belt.
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all use this layout on belt and shaft and its why there so good.
all this of belt vs shaft should b batts on 1 side vs saddle type layouts
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Things to consider:

- Weight distribution.
- Driving style.
- Shafts are harder on front CVD's, when combined with a one-way diff.
- Is a belt a belt and a shaft a shaft? I mean, a bad implemented belt transmission will be out performed by a high quality shaft. And a high quality belt transmission will beat a bad implemented shaft transmission.
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