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Old 07-22-2008, 09:25 PM   #1
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on the thread started by ruben asking for submissions for next year nats someone mentioned having nats at the same track for a few years in row, that way everyone would know what to expect from the track and area and it might increase turn out. i've been thinking about that and it actually makes some sense,

I finished 2nd at the 2007 Nats at my home track and was looking forward to the 2008 Nats on a neutral track. I wasn't crazy about going to Arkanasas and thought Roar was crazy for giving them the race, (and i'm sure i wasn't the only one) and almost didn't go, however, i went, had a blast, and would be more then happy to go back there again next year. I already have a setup, know the surface, have a couple of local friends there now, and won't be freaking out for 3 days before the race and will get more time to enjoy the city and night life.

I'm sure the track learned a ton and the 2nd race would be even better then the first.

anyone else have any thoughts on this.

and of course this is all contigent on the track wanting to host the race again

this is only to get others opinions, not to start a pissing match

PS, also not saying this is for next year or right away, but the future sometime , thanks
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I would love to go back...just to see Billy Bob and Ricky Bobby!
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With rising travel expenses its more important than ever to have the Nats cycle from venue to venue. I may not be able to attend a ROAR Nats that's hosted in California this year as an example, but say that next year that same event is in St. Louis? I might be able to go.
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Isn't part of the challenge of going to a national event - having to over come competing in a different facility - against people you may have never raced against. To see who comes up with the best set up and drives the best?

In the early '90's, I went to the On-Road Nationals held in Orlando, FL - in a parking lot of a hotel - challenging surface to race one, no one had an advantage, everyone had to figure it out the same. The event was run like clock work, from my memory. It was challenging and exciting.

So going to different places, in different parts of the country on different types of surfaces - should be part of the challenge. All the conditions should be equal for the competitors. But should also challenge them, to see how is really the best.
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I personally like a change every year. 2 years ago West Coast. This year was Central.. Hopefully next year will be East Coast ,then back West some. Share the event to all regions and support all racers......
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my bad i just read for while
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:38 AM   #7
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With travel expenses being so expensive. Roar should consider a track with a healthy local turn out.... Nats are almost guaranteed 25 to 30 travel racers between the Factory drivers and hardcore sponsored drivers. The rest of the sign ups really depends on How many locals that track has.....

I hope that Florida gets the next east coast bid... They have a huge R/C community and more people would be willing to make that trip to florida....
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everytime there is a nats in florida that track magically closes down.
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This is a good thread with good points being made, props to Richie.

I think looking at the concept of keeping the race in one location is something that should be looked at. Im not sold on it yet, but I think it should be looked at. Would this ad value to the race? Would this help turnout?
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all i'm saying is, is how many people didn't go to nationals not because they didn't have the money, but thought a race in arkansas was a bad idea, with the good reports from those that went, maybe next year attendance would be up, way up in fact. people shy away from the unknown. next years race could be in new mexico, what was your first thought when you just read new mexico? so you don't go, turn out sucks, roar gets another reaming for a low turn out race, but everyone that went has a great time, the following year maybe you decide to join the fun and attendance goes up.

In the long run, doesn't matter to me, I right now I plan on going where ever its held and have already started putting money the "Nationals account"

any thoughts on having three or four National tracks, one west coast, two mid country north or/south and one east coast on a rotating basis
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Back in the 80's the Roar Carpet Nats were in Detroit year after year. It was a hotel race, but you could count on it, plan for it and they were some of the best races ever held. One of the things that made them so great is that they were held in what, at the time, was the hotbed of 4-cell carpet racing, The Mid-West. I think a little planning as far as "hotspots" for the given classes would go a long way towards ensuring bigger turnouts. Just a thought.....
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all i'm saying is, is how many people didn't go to nationals not because they didn't have the money, but thought a race in arkansas was a bad idea, with the good reports from those that went, maybe next year attendance would be up, way up in fact. people shy away from the unknown. next years race could be in new mexico, what was your first thought when you just read new mexico? so you don't go, turn out sucks, roar gets another reaming for a low turn out race, but everyone that went has a great time, the following year maybe you decide to join the fun and attendance goes up.

In the long run, doesn't matter to me, I right now I plan on going where ever its held and have already started putting money the "Nationals account"

any thoughts on having three or four National tracks, one west coast, two mid country north or/south and one east coast on a rotating basis


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That is just belligerent of the people that did not make the trip for that reason. Those same people will not attend next year.. for one reason or another, unless of course it is held at a track that is close...

This venue was chosen for it's strengths... The race is the race... as long as it is well run, and racers can get there somewhat affordablely.... it SHOULD be well attended.

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all i'm saying is, is how many people didn't go to nationals not because they didn't have the money, but thought a race in arkansas was a bad idea,
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What are the top RC races each year?

Snowbirds and Vegas come to mind.

Why are they the ones to go too?

Same location, same date and same people run it each year. Racers can bring their families along to because its a place they can have fun as well...
One can get cheap Airfare to these places as well.....
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