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Old 09-05-2003, 11:22 PM   #76
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josh, i think were talking about two different scotty's. i'm talking about scottys in tacoma washington, also known as TRCR. its a off road track only.
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Old 09-06-2003, 06:08 PM   #77
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It's cool that they finally admit there is going to be a Quad-Mag 19t hand wound, but what do they mean by "Not designed for ROAR racing"? Isn't the whole point of the new 19 motors to cope with ROAR rules which allow hand-wound motors? I asked around and the new motor isn't going to be legal here anyway, oh well. Are there any locations that will allow it?
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Old 09-06-2003, 08:38 PM   #78
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Redmond Hobbies probably will...

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fantasy world will too, and just cause the rain is a roar track doesn't mean there won't be a class for it.
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Old 09-06-2003, 09:47 PM   #80
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I think ROAR will be changing their 19 turn rule for next year. That is the rumor that I am hearing.
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:51 AM   #81
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all you guys talk a lot about the FANTOM motor.
but WHICH Fantom? ie: name / type, order nr?
Even on the Fantom site, I cannot find a 19T.
Fantom seems to be extremely hard to get in europe; any suggestions where to buy with shipment overseas?
And which brushes to order with it? Fantom 315 ?
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Old 09-09-2003, 10:37 AM   #82
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we've been debating a lot of these issues at our track for the up-coming carpet season, stock, 19t, mod motors. rubber vs foam tires. and what level drivers should compete with what equipment. i think one of the guys put it best: 19turn was started to be faster than stock but not as cost prohibited as mod. i guess all you guys run foams in the 19turn classes? but what are the rules about 19t? they are up in the air and vary from one track to another! if your going to allow hand wounds & adj timing a track might as well have 2 19t classes: machine wound, fixed timing and then hand wound, adj timing. this puts us into the classic debate of too many classes. our track ran novice (beginner drivers, stock motors, rubber tires), stock rubber, expert stock (foam), and mod. poepls said it's too many stock class, make the "expert stock" guys run 19t. i don't know the answer
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Hi,
all you guys talk a lot about the FANTOM motor.
but WHICH Fantom? ie: name / type, order nr?
Even on the Fantom site, I cannot find a 19T.
Fantom seems to be extremely hard to get in europe; any suggestions where to buy with shipment overseas?
And which brushes to order with it? Fantom 315 ?
I don't know if they ship overseas but here's a link.
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...pl?pn=FAN30702
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thx,
I'll give it a try !
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Old 09-09-2003, 08:31 PM   #85
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hyperformance:
Here at Rain our rules for 19T are:
•Any 19T locked timing, machine-wound motor (Fantom, Trinity, Element, Reedy etc.)
•Any brush/spring
•Any 6 cell battery and 1/10 sedan chassis
•Paragon traction compound is not legal, but others are.

We've been running rubber tires through the summer, but with winter comes foams! (Indoors)

As to levels of racers, because there is little interest in mod during the summer, the factory guys run 19 with us and teach us how to drive .
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I'm gearing up for the foam season. I ordered some Foams and a new 19T will be in the mix soon... Fantom of course.

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Sushi, if your gonna do an epic basic 19t, you may want to look at Fast Forward Racing. as Speed said earlier, alot of the guys in our 19t state series run them. I know I am not buying a Fantom 19t again.... Admittedly, I am kinda biased, as they are locals, but then again, I would not recommend the motors if they were crap.
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guys the fantom motors cant hang these have got to be one of the fastest 19 turns out of the bag no tweaking necessary they are ready to go trust me their fast.
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thanks for the info, we've got a big debate going on classes. many of our guys want to run hand wound, adjustable timing 19turns, the rest of are saying "you might as well make it open mod", the motors are $90 either way. some say the hand wound & machine wound run the same, then why spend $90 instead of $30?
everything i have ever raced has had classes based on driver skill as well as level of modifications to their equipment, but RC doesn't seem to go that way, it seems it's amatuer or expert, stock or mod, no in-betweens. all our racers are cool headed though so i'm sure we'll work something out

i see some guys talking about 23turn (i know this is the 19t thread) i'm getting the idea that 23t isn't so popular here in the states?
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The adjustable timing 19T motors run standup brushes... you have to advance the timing to a rediculous amount to even compare to a standard 19T with the laydown brushes. Then the motor runs so friggin hot, you weaken the magnets in the can. Like HYPER said, its basically a mod can with a 19T arm in it... why bother?! Gimme an EPIC based 19T (C2) anyday of the week...
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